Bullet, Stab, and Spike Proofing Yourself during a Civil Collapse

Today’s post comes to us courtesy of our friends over at Safeguard Armor.  There will be a follow up to this post on Wednesday that I strongly urge you to tune in for.  I hope you’ll be as excited about it as I am.  At that time Road Warrior is going to have an announcement that you won’t want to miss.

-Jarhead Survivor

On to the post!

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With all of the big changes that are happening within the United States borders and beyond, the risk of the fall of the social structure inside the U.S. becomes greater every day. The prices of goods and services continue to rise while the unemployment rates are greater than they have ever been and the minimum wage is not enough for a single person to survive on alone. This has caused more and more people to have to do without and has even made more people resort to stealing to provide for their families.

Our country is full of people who once a year on Black Friday when all the stores kick off their Christmas sales are willing to trample on top of others and sometimes even seriously injure or kill others just to get a good deal on that new T.V. or gaming system their family wants. So let’s just imagine what it would be like if over population, resource depletion, catastrophe, or government changes leads to the collapse of the social structure here in the U.S. There would not be enough food to go around and as more and more people were forced to see their families starving this would lead to dangerous times. If a civil collapse were to happen there would be chances of rioting, looting, and home invasions.

These people would arm themselves with anything they could find or steal and the weapons of choice would be guns, knives, and spikes. Armor to protect yourself and your family from these types of weapons can be bought or made at home. There is a T.V. show that tests myths and they made a homemade bullet proof vest. They used two 12″x 12″ ceramic bathroom tiles with 1″ squares and they attached these to a cloth to make a “vest” using a plaster that had high levels of fiberglass in it. When they tested it out they were at a distance of roughly 15 ft. When shot with a 9mm, a .45acp, and a buckshot round the vest worked. However, it was ineffective against a slug or a .223 round. As far as stab or spike proofing goes, there are a few homemade ideas available with a quick search online. They were not as effective as they should have been though and in my opinion, you want a product to assure you and your family’s safety so you should just buy it. The gear you buy is safety tested and proven to work.

I, like most everyone else in the world, now knows that the money for this type of gear is hard to come up with. However, this is your family’s safety you are considering and the thought that should cross your mind is do I want to risk their lives by trying something homemade or do I want to try to save to offer my family the best protective gear I can find to order online the prices for both types of protection range from over $1,000 to lower quality products at around $140. Yes the price is expensive especially if you are buying for more than one person but you get what you pay for and it is to protect the lives of those you love from attacks here on domestic soils.

For those of you who still refuse to believe that it is coming, look around you, do some research, do something. The great America is no longer as great as we once were. We have driven ourselves so far in debt and sold off most of our good jobs to people who would do them for less. The time for action would be now before things get too much worse. A great majority of our country is out of work and we are depending more and more on government aide to survive. For some families the government assistance is their only means of survival for their families. (Food stamps, SSI, disability, etc.) What does everyone think will happen when those resources are shut down? When all these families are no longer able to provide food for their families at all and when they try to find work there are no jobs left in this country for them. We have caused this by letting our government speak for us and let a small group of people decide what is best for all of us. While this fattens their bank accounts this is diminishing ours. And when there is no way to feed their families people will go to any means necessary to feed their families. That will include robbing those who are able to feed theirs and possibly killing others to do so.

The days of everyone working together will be gone and it will become every man for him. This is the time to stock up on things for protection of your family because with the constant job cuts and the growing unemployment rates no job can be called safe. Even our soldiers who work for our government are watching as they lose benefits that they worked hard for. Several soldiers before them gave their lives for them to have the benefits the received. But they just keep cutting them down to nothing.  If they have no problems cutting the pay and benefits of the soldiers who stand and fight for this country who would think they wouldn’t do that to them. Our senior citizens who like children cannot properly care for themselves anymore have had to live with an income that is almost impossible to live off of already and they are receiving cuts in benefits too. Shamefully some have referred to SSI as a hand out. This is not a hand out, this is not money to be taken from, and this is money that you pay into the whole time you are working so that when you are no longer able to work you still have income to live on. This is money you let the government hold on to for you and now they are trying to take that too.

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19 comments… add one
  • Anonymous October 28, 2013, 10:11 am

    Even my Mom, age 74, believes a Revolution is at hand. She use to think I was crazy for prepping, not anymore. I still get grief for how much stuff I hoard though. If I lived closer to the city I would be hoarding armor. As it is I am hoarding items to make sandbags and to harden my house. Anybody see that show on Nat Geo last night? American Blackout. If you live in or near a city, you better have a plan to leave.

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  • Ray October 28, 2013, 1:27 pm

    Nice sales pitch , just the right amount of paranoia, panic, urgency and salesmanship. Now on to the truth. Body armor ;be it chainmail plate armor ,Kevlar ,ceramic hard plates, steel plates, home made or store bought is hot ,heavy and offers VERY limited protection from a VERY limited range of threats . A fox hole in your yard ; properly built with overhead cover offers far better protection than ANY body armor can and all you need to buy are a few hand tools. Properly built a fox hole (properly called the “individual fighting position”) can protect you from; Gun fire , blast/fragmentation rounds, blast(over pressure) radiation and thermal injury. You can spend a lot of money uselessly on a security blanket. Its what a lot of preppers do now, It’s fast ,makes them feel safe by throwing money at it, and looks COOL. BUT one guy armed with a bolt action rifle in 30:06 , 8MM Mauser , or 300 WIN MAG. makes body armor useless. Really great paranoid Dog-Eat-Dog ,The Golden Hoard is Coming , OMG ZOMBIES!!! sales pitch though

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    • smokechecktim October 28, 2013, 4:05 pm

      gosh ray…we actually agree on something! Body armor gives people a false sense of security. Show me your armor and I’ll show you a weapon to defeat it, and most cloth type armor ( kevlar, etc.) has a limited use/ shelf life. Unless you have a unlimited budget, body armor would be waaay down my list of things to buy or build.

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    • bob November 13, 2013, 1:09 pm

      I reckon u plan on living out your days in this bullet proof foxhole. If the shtf Id like to do anything I could to improve my family’s chances.

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  • JB October 28, 2013, 8:29 pm

    As part of my job for the past ten years, I assist people with REAL disabilities to get SSI and SSDI. SSI has a maximum benefit of $710 per month and is the welfare arm of Social Security (it comes with Medicaid only, and starts immediately). SSDI is what working people pay Medicare and Social Security taxes for – the amount of SSDI you get depends on how much in taxes you’ve paid in the last five or so years (SSDI comes with Medicare, after a two year waiting period from the date of disability). SSDI pays a lot more if you have worked for ten years or so. If you haven’t worked in more than five years, chances are you won’t get SSDI, but you can qualify for SSI – IF – you meet stringent guidelines for disability.

    Everyone has a story about someone that gets disability payments and doesn’t deserve them or is an alcoholic or drug addict, but believe me, it is not as common as you think. Generally, these people have disabilities beyond what the eye can see. Even former drug addicts and alcoholics, who have irreversible liver/kidney/heart problems, not to mention mental health issues, many of which are more serious than you can imagine, can get benefits as long as no matter if they gave up drugs/alchohol, they would still be sick. Others don’t get into drugs/alchohol until after they were approved as disabled. But those benefits can be taken away upon periodic review, and many are. If a person is using drugs/alcohol currently and it contributes to their disability, they are supposed to be automatically be denied.

    I’m old enough to retire but I don’t. Let me be clear here, I only help legitimate people who have medical evidence to back up their claims. Social Security only allows those who have adequate medical evidence to get disability. Yes, there are some that make it thru the cracks, but most do not. What I don’t understand is why, if you have worked enough to get a higher amount of SSDI, you don’t get Medicare immediately, too, but instead wait two years. The average processing time for either SSI/SSDI is about two and a half years until a hearing can be held. That’s assuming one applies and appeals and doesn’t just keep reapplying. Lots of folks I see go broke before then.

    That being said, the SSI and SSDI recipients pose no more danger to society in crisis than anyone else who fails to save money and make preparations for themselves and their families. The majority of Americans live paycheck to paycheck – not just SSI or disability recipients. If we all made a more concerted effort to be prepared for any kind of long or short term disaster, we would be better off, not just as individuals but as a community and a country. Unfortunately, that isn’t going to happen anytime soon. I am prepared, though, but appreciate learning more and where I may have missed something by your posts, so keep them coming.

    I thank you for your opinion, and hope mine will add to the discussion. Hopefully I won’t get burned by the commenting community. This is only the second time I have commented here in the past two years.

    As the Boy Scouts say, BE PREPARED. I am.

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  • irishdutchuncle October 28, 2013, 9:22 pm

    years ago I attended a lecture given by an FBI agent, who with his partner, had tracked down a kidnapper. the kidnapper shot the agents with a shotgun. as I recall, they were wearing body armor, but it didn’t matter. the partner took one pellet in the femoral artery, and blead to death.
    I would really like to be “stab proof”/”bullet proof”, but body armor isn’t magical. (it is however more portable than the “individual fighting position”)

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    • Ray October 29, 2013, 9:11 am

      You can dig in almost anywhere, but in over half the US states body armor will get you treated EXACTY as if you were open carrying an AK-47. Shovels on the other hand won’t get a second look. Have you ever TRYED to wear body armor all-day-every-day.(the only way it dose any good at all) “Bullet proof/stab proof” armor (IIIa+) runs up around 30+ pounds ,is three+ inches thick, TOTALY inflexible ,and uncomfortable as hell to have on for more than a few hours. It is also EXPENSIVE and has a REALLY short shelf life.

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      • irishdutchuncle October 29, 2013, 12:12 pm

        yeh, I’ve been trying to decide between a trowel, spetnaz or entrenching tool for my “day hike” bag. I’m already carrying lots of extra pounds…

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        • Ray October 29, 2013, 4:46 pm

          Irish, any of them are good for cat holes or slit trenches. I have 8-10 E-tools around here that I’v picked up at fly markets(if you lived around here you’d get the joke) for under 20 bucks . You can also find one of those small gardening spades at Home depot .The one I have was around 20 dollars. Its about the same size as a WW-2 “T” handle E-tool. Its just solid-I use it to plant rose’s and let my six year old play with it.

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          • irishdutchuncle October 30, 2013, 4:11 am

            I have a 1944 Ames, E-Tool, (which is on permanent loan to my son) one of the best purchases I’ve ever made. I’ll buy another one (or two) sometime. the “T” handle just doesn’t work as well. the cheap copies don’t have the strength or heft of a real E-Tool. (a German surplus one might be an acceptable substitute) I don’t think I could use a spetsnaz to the same efffect. the U.S. E-Tool is just something every real survivalist should have. It belongs in any vehicle that might ever be driven off-road, also.

  • Roseman October 28, 2013, 9:42 pm

    Because limited funds are common to many of us, I think we should have the basics totally covered before contemplating funding for armor. That is the last thing on my list.

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  • Steve suffering in nj October 29, 2013, 12:58 pm

    If I had the extra $$ I’d get some. A little extra insurance is a good thing. That said, food and water are allot more important.

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  • sput October 29, 2013, 1:41 pm

    Correct, body armor can be defeated, is pricey & heavy, but if it is totally worthless, why are the troops wearing it? Are you superman, and some gang-bangers pistol round will just bounce off your manly chest?
    Having any preps without knowing the uses and limitations of said preps is false security, that even goes for food and band-aids.
    SO, TAKE THE INFO AND LEARN! DON’T AUTOMATICALLY POST A WHINEY, DOWNER RESPONSE BECAUSE YOU KNOW BETTER.
    Check out AS500 for a steel level 3 plate set-ups for around 300 bux, with carrier & mag pouches.
    If you have the money, and are ahead of the curve with your other preps, get some armor. It shouldn’t be your first priority, but stopping a .223 or a 7.62×39 before it shreds your vital organs is always a good thing.

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    • Ray October 29, 2013, 4:36 pm

      Well… First its not “as-500” it’s AR-500. As in Abrasion resistant steel 500 B. hardness . It’s not actually armor . what it is,-is old industrial skid plate with bed liner sprayed on it. That’s why its so cheep. So maybe I do know more about it than you do. Also leave your ego at home till you know what your talking about kid. Personal attacks are just rude and make you look foolish.

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      • Anonymous October 30, 2013, 8:42 am

        OK Ray, so I had a typo — KMA and screw your ego.

        AR-500. It’s entry level, works fair. I don’t have any of it or any interest in the company. I throw this out there for those on a tight budget who want to get in the game.

        Yes, it’s heavy & hot, but just plates in a light carrier will run around 20 lbs. The full blown Interceptor rig will run 30+ with the neck & crotch & other add-ons. I wouldn’t do a LR patrol in it, but mounted or static defense you bet I’ll wear it.

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        • bob November 13, 2013, 1:17 pm

          agreed. good for u

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  • lil country November 1, 2013, 11:51 pm

    Any of you ever thought of raw hide backed by 16 oz leather. It won’t stop everything. But it will turn a knife. To stop my. 45 acp and .40 cap was just a piece of 10ga sheet metal. It was very eye opening. As far as stopping higher velocity rifle rounds. I agree with sand bags and fox holes.

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  • AtTheReady April 7, 2016, 7:23 am

    Body armor is nice but it doesn’t do any good against a head or neck shot. An experienced rifle operator can make a head or neck shot at 300 yards or less…no problem and even out to 600 and 700 yards if experienced. I like the ole fox hole (fighting position) better but rather impractical to say the least if you live in the city or even a small town. I suggest a person (and family) that really would like to survive needs to focus on food, water, energy storage, security measures (weapons and ammo), gold-silver, bartering materials and community building (security, engineering, medical, communications and team building) and not body armor.

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