Drugs Can Turn You Into A Crazy Face Eating Zombie

by Jarhead Survivor on June 1, 2012

Ranger Man kind of stole my thunder for this Friday’s post, but I forgive him.  We talk about the same story from different angles…

Mr and Mrs Jarhead. A handsome zombie couple...

Have you ever had one of those surrealistic moments where you look around and wonder if you’re suddenly living in a movie?  On Tuesday I was reading the MSM, which I hate myself for doing sometimes, and came across this story.

For those of you who haven’t read it and have no desire to read it:  I don’t blame you.  Apparently some guy high on drugs ate part of another guy’s face.  Here’s a brief excerpt from the story:

“The guy was like tearing him to pieces with his mouth, so I told him, ‘Get off!’” Vega told WSVN. “You know it’s like the guy just kept eating the other guy away, like ripping his skin.”

This was the NEWS folks!  This wasn’t a late night movie that would cause you to lose sleep, it was an event that happened in Miami, Florida.

What gets me about this story is that everybody is assuming (me along with them) that the guy was hopped up onsome kind of drug with bath salts being the favorite candidate right now.  For the life of me I can’t figure out why someone would look at a drug that has potential to turn you into a face-eating zombie and say, “Hey!  I gotta have me some of that!”

Here in Maine there have been a rash of bath salts incidents in the last couple of years.  Ranger Man wrote a post awhile back about the new drug and some of its effects on people.

The Big Picture

Despite my inability to understand why people would want to take a drug like this the fact remains that they do and do so in great numbers.  When times are tough people seem to want to “escape reality” for some reason.  Sorry for the over-used phrase, but it still holds true.  It seems for those who are poor this and other cheap drugs are the favorite escape vehicle despite the fact that they will eventually kill you.

When addicts are denied access to their drugs they will often look for other drugs as a substitute until they can get their favorite high back again.  An addict will do anything they can to get high and that means taking prescription drugs too.  There have been stories here in Maine recently of addicts breaking into older citizens homes – because they usually have prescription drugs – and robbing or even killing for them.

Imagine if TSHTF and they had no more access to these drugs?  Would the addicts swarm into the country side looking for drugs and killing innocent people for them?  Check out this video by the Patriot Nurse and her opinion about druggies and what might happen when they no longer have access to drugs.  The part about the drugs starts around 3:50 minutes.

 

She might seem a little radical, but I believe she makes a good point about the drug addicts looking for a fix.

Then there are the other drugs out there:  meth, coke, alcohol, LSD, and check out this story on a drug called Krokidil, a Russian substitute for heroin.  Do a Google search for the physical effects of this drug to see some really horrifying stuff.

My opinion is that this could be a very real danger if we were to experience a long term event.  If you have drugs in the house you might want to think about how many people know about them and if that would be problematic during a crisis.  OPSEC would be very important in this situation.

I also think the danger depends largely on where you live.  Living in a city or the outskirts may put you at higher risk from this particular threat than someone living in the country.  The reason I say that is that hardcore druggies are unlikely to have reliable transportation and would probably have to set out on foot.  Also, addicts are less likely to be able to hoof it a long distance due to poor physical conditioning, meaning they’ll be limited to the city and outskirts, although I’m sure there will be exceptions to both of these ideas.

What To Do?

Simple.  Like everything your best line of defense is OPSEC.  Addicts are going to go after the low hanging fruit first and if they don’t know where to find you or that you have prescription drugs on hand you’ll be harder to spot.

Lock your doors.  It’s probably silly to put in writing, but you’d be surprised how many people leave their doors open.

Get a gun and learn how to use it.  If someone breaks into your house you may or may not have time to get to a gun, but at least you have some kind of defense nearby.

Give them what they want.  If they break in and get the drop on you give them what they want.  Even if your medication is vital to your survival you at least have a chance of surviving long enough to get more instead of being killed on the spot.

Hide a little somewhere.  If they do get in and get your main supply of prescription drugs you’ll at least have some hidden elsewhere you’ll be able to retrieve after they’re gone.  Don’t get caught short.

What do you think about this story?  There are many facets I haven’t covered and I’m curious to what your reaction is to this story.

Sound off below!

-Jarhead Survivor

 

irishdutchuncle June 1, 2012

i really need a better shotgun…

irishdutchuncle June 1, 2012

i’m wondering if any of these compounds has ever existed in a natural form. these cases sure sound like demonic posessions. suddenly, werewolves don’t seem so farfetched.

Spook45 June 2, 2012

The only natural forms of these drugs is the actual black tar herin from the poppie plants. IT is refined with chemical process to make it into other forms, some pharmicutical grade for medicinal use. The “bath salts” or methacathlone and its close relitive methamphedimine are totaly chemical and have no naturally occuring drug effects. THe ingrediants are things you would find in the harware store or the auto parts store. bad stuff,Go figure, the Nazis came up with meth during wwii in the quest for a “super soldier” and it was used to some great extent due to its ability to keep people up for long periods of time and still be able to focus and operate, that why truck drivers use it so much.

TMac June 8, 2012

Ergot fungus is a naturally occurring fungus that grows in rye – the synthetic version (ergonovine) was the basis for Hoffman’s creation of LSD.
If you look it up, note the history of the little town of Pont St Esprit in Provence, France. Most of the town was “driven mad” at one time. The only common denominator? Everyone who went nuts had eaten bread from the same baker – bread that was determined to have been made from ergot-tainted rye.
As to possession? Note that the witch trials that took place in Europe were in areas where rye was primarily grown as a staple.

irishdutchuncle June 18, 2012

thanks, Spook and T Mac.

Spook45 June 1, 2012

YEs, the ole KROKADIL, krokadil is actually a poor mans coctail and while it is spposed to be an opiate based heroin mimicer, it is often liquid death. THey will use ANY opiate dirivitive(usualy codeine based cough surup) and any liquid media that they can use to break it down, alchol, lighter fluid(aka naphtha) paint thinner gasoline whatever. This is why it is very often instant death because depending what you use as a diluter/mixer it may kill you. The name Krokadil comes rom the literal russian translation for crocadile and they call it that because over time the infection and degridation of skin around the inection sites start to blacken and sca over in a rouh crocadile like texture that looks like croc skin. For the record KROKADIL IS BAD JUJU, has NO medicinal qualities what so ever and can be a one use killer(that is a drug that for some people will kill them on the first time they try it)

Jason June 1, 2012

First about the video ….

I decided to check out a couple of her other videos to get some continuity about her & she’s a victim of her own popularity & idiocy. Talks about things she has very limited understanding of visa-a-vis her amateur Google research, gains a following & voila – a subculture god is created.

She says & points towards the camera – “If they are addicted to opiates or benzos, they are coming for you!” More amateur sensationalized BS …. is it any wonder why people are more paranoid today than any other point in history?

In another video I could barely stomach watching, this “nurse” – in scrubs to boot, talks about expiration dates of drugs as if it is pharmaceutical company conspiracy to sell more drugs or protect their interests. She needs to gain a vastly better understanding of chemistry, environmental conditions that affect such etc, etc, before running off at the mouth. Point being, she was & is WAY out of line ….. yet, is out there spewing opinions as if they are facts.

The real future danger lies with the children being raised by or listens to people like Patriot Nurse. Instilling & embedding these points of view into a young mind who has NO ability to discern & differentiate right from wrong, is extremely unhealthy & criminal in my opinion. Hell, it’s hard enough for adults to separate the truth from fantasy. Enough said ~

However, CYA or OPSEC is an important factor to keep in consideration. Although it would seem that “druggies” AND gang members SEEM to be everywhere but are they? Both groups COMBINED make up less that 1/2% of the population in America & are, by in large, very geographically specific.

We all should have a pretty good idea where those areas are and, if one has to travel through such an area, it is best to practice being invisible or hide in plain sight – i.e. OPSEC.

As far as the rest of the “at risk” groups she pointed out, I think simple common sense dictates what actions need to be taken.

irishdutchuncle June 1, 2012

… yeh, but we all spew spew opinions on the internet as though they were facts. (and besides, i kinda like what she has to say)

Jason June 1, 2012

Oh, you busted me – it was supposed to be 1% not 1/2%! That’s a huge error on a very small number :-)

My point is geared more towards the delivery of a message from a point of responsibility of the information (in her case) as it affects a group as a whole.

Granted & I agree that we will never purge the whacko’s from posting crap on the Internet but it is this type of stuff that keeps fueling the fire of tension in an already tense world that we seem to be evolving towards.

It has been my observation over the past 10+ years that the level of tension in the world, lack of morality & general common decency which was generally accepted & agreed upon 4 short decades ago, has become not only relative, but seems to be evaporating daily.

Further, this increased exposure to all of this completely uncensored information via this vehicle is >>feeding<< it all & not vise versa in my opinion. It is kind of like the wild west of communication except the "bad" seems to greatly outweigh the "good". Case in point, read the comment by Ray below …

irishdutchuncle June 2, 2012

even 1% seems a bit low.
the level of depravity in some of the recent crimes, makes them hard to ignore, even though the actual number of them may be few.

each of the “Patriot Nurse” videos has to be viewed in context. (its own context, and in the overall context) we all have to wander around in this “wild west” until we gain sufficient perspective.

T.R. June 1, 2012

” We all should have a pretty good idea where those areas are and, if one has to travel through such an area, ”

I prefer we do a ” night of the long knives ” approach to these areas .

Spook45 June 2, 2012

Actually, not far fetched at all. I know where she is and the drug problem in and around that town are so bad that justa couple of years ago thewhole main street was closed down and boarded up. THat was from Meth, now its pills, mostly oxycodone and its not just thier county its everywhere. The addiction is so bad that rob and steal at liesure and it is routine for people to be killed during these robberies and thefts. ITs not sensationalisim at all. I have seen the things she is talking about first hand.

Jason June 2, 2012

If I told you that my area was experiencing very little in the way of drug problems as it relates to crimes as well as being noticeable by the average person walking on the streets & economically we are weathering this storm well (very little commercial vacancy) & I live within a widely economically diverse population, would that make it true across the board?

Of course not, but my area is more of the norm than where she resides. If the vast majority of America was in the condition as she has illustrated, we would have a civil war – without question.

The problem is, sometimes people take their microcosm & broad brushes it to create unneeded upset or paranoia. It would be far better if she qualified things as to her experience in her area.

Ray June 1, 2012

Guys, Is it just me? Or are people getin’ crazyer by the day? Folks eatin’ other folks, Road rage, bad drugs & dudes shootin’ up drano.Here in Ky it looks like murder is set to replace B ball as the new fav-o-rite sport in Lexinton & Louisville. Meth & Pillheads are under every rock and bush. It’s gettin’ wierd outside. Maybe the big Z. A. P . not the BS I thought it was. Ray in Ky

watchdog June 2, 2012

No it’s not you, Ray. The world IS getting nuttier all the time. Too much CSI and weird horror stuff on the tube. It really does give boarderline neurotics the shove they need to go loopy. Plus the values of yesteryear are no longer taught to our kids. ‘Hey, if it feels good, go for it!’. If somebody dies in the process, ‘who gives a sh*t?’ That’s the problem in a ‘nut’ shell. Pun intended.

Ragnar June 1, 2012

OPSEC is always important, but it is not particularly relevant for drug users. They will not be making plans to go to after those who have prepared. They will go to pharmacies, hospitals, doctors’ offices, even Walmart and grocery stores. in other words, anywhere drugs can be found. When those sources are exhausted, they will be desperate and violent. They are unlikely to sit and evaluate targets. And if they do, who is more likely to have recreational drugs young people on welfare or a middle aged guy who has (or had) a job and spends his time working in his garden and on his house? I believe that they most likely will go after any target of opportunity. Ergo, defensive capability will be the most important factor in dealing with drug users.

T.R. June 1, 2012

My nephew is a waste of skin druggie , My sympathy ran out a long time ago . One time he was whining about how he wanted to end it all ……… I told him that was probably the best thing he could do for himself and his mother , let me know if you need some help , but frankly …..you and I both know you dont have the balls to do it , and you and I also know that nobody will give a crap when your gone either . ……………………He hasn’t talked to me sense , which is the way I want it . Your a druggie , you deserve all the bad things that happen to you . I hope they all die .

Jason June 1, 2012

If your nephew does come back & wants to talk to you, I would see that as a positive sign because you clearly created an excellent boundary in that you will only tolerate a drug free kid. I know full well how disappointing it can be for you but, your influence could bear positive fruit some day.

T.R. June 1, 2012

Time will tell , his father has already washed his hands of him . Good news is my 2 nieces are well adjusted good kids , both are 2 years younger than he is and have already passed him by . If he was a girl , it might generate more pity from me , but being male ……….I tend to look at him as expendable , that sucks but thats just the way I’m built . Im very Arthurian in that way , I prefer to be around females on every level or be alone , chivalry lives ;)
Thing is , all drugs do are turn you into a pile of crap , you learn criminal skills to help support your habit instead of life skills to help you survive and be of use to other people . If you cant help yourself , you cant help others . For people like that , I do believe in suicide vans …….sort of like the blood mobiles of the read cross .

Jason June 1, 2012

As usual, you made me laugh out loud with you’re straight forward opinion!

That being said, I had a very dark period in my life & was written off by most everybody in fact, my brother was the only one I was able to go to for help. Like you, he set up a clear, no F around boundary & knew if I wanted help I had to tow that very narrow line with NO second chances.

I believe that many get to a point of self destruction, while being surrounded by the walking dead called “friends” & feel they have no choice or way out. It is a vicious, ugly cycle & existence.

I’ll admit I was lucky & look how I turned out today. Maybe I should have left that part out …..

T.R. June 1, 2012

I hear ya , when your in that situation , and somebody is kind enough to throw you a rope ………grab it instead of hang yourself with it . They dont expect to be repaid by throwing it to you , so your obligated to throw it out to another when the time comes . Even if he wasn’t a druggie , his personality type would need a mean domineering woman , because if you cut him any slack of any kind , he wont do anything …….I mean anything . Needs somebody to ride his ass 24/7/365 As it is , no female would have him other than another junkie . My nick name for him is HIV .
” hey HIV ! , whats up doosh ? ” nuff said .

T.R. June 1, 2012

If they did that , they could at least contribute by being recycled into pet food . Feeding a hungry animal instead of a drug habit .

J.S. June 1, 2012

Like money and everything else that is vital to survival, don’t keep it all in one place. Keep a small amount of your meds available and keep the rest hidden in different areas. Most will take what they think you have and leave.

T.R. June 1, 2012

One thing about meds is that they do expire , and like many have mentioned elsewhere , herbal remedies knowledge will help a great deal . I learned a lot from my sweety , growing up in the Soviet union , she learned A LOT of natural cures , because if they didnt , their free ” health care ” was so broken down a person could die before they were able to see a doctor . Ask anybody that has been there , how well communism works …………..it doesn’t !

Michael June 1, 2012

Where I’m at there’s more drugs and problems in the rural areas than in town. In town we have police that have regular patrols, in rural areas they have a sheriff that will come out if there’s a disturbance, if it’s bad enough, eventually. In town, you can’t live in the back of your truck, in an RV, or camped on someone’s property, for $200 a month, outside of town this sort of thing is common (at least it is where I’m at). In town it’s pretty impossible to hide a pot grow op, meth-lab or chop shop, outside of town it’s easy. In town we’re doing fine, in some of the areas outside of town the S has already HTF.

I’ll stick with living in towns and smaller cities. But, I’d agree that big cities and big metro areas are a bit on the sketchy side.

I’m not really a fan of The Patriot Nurse.

KC June 1, 2012

Jarhead;

Quite timely, since I frequently work with the occasional Narcotics Abuser, I’ve had first hand experience with people under the influence of these so-called “bath-salts.” As experience has taught me and my colleagues, a person under the influence of these Narcotics are very easily physically manipulated, thus incapacitation can be easily performed on persons under the influence, through simple pain compliance techniques, such as arm-bars, wrist-locks, ankle-locks and various choke holds. Why the gentleman in Miami allowed his face to be violently assaulted, when the gentleman could have easily applied an eye gouge to the affected attacker is beyond me, unless the gentleman was under the influence of something that prevented his mind from properly assessing the threat when it was presented. Oh and by the way, people under the influence of the so-called “Bath Salts” appear to have no depth perception whatsoever, therefore their aiming of any sort of firearm would be tenuous to say the least. In other words, in the event that a person or persons “hopped-up” on synthetic methamphetamines and armed where to attack anyone semi-competent with a firearm, it would be a one sided contest at best.

TJJackson June 2, 2012

Another informative and timely article. I must disagree with one point. My wife and I live in a rural area and are very aware of “home invasion robberies”. I have an extensive background in fire and police and have planned extensively for the possibility of this type of problem. I have external motion lights, small “yappy” dogs and a very secure home. I have my duty pistol and a flashlight near the bed and I practice getting it in complete darkness. I have pre-planned with my wife as far as her interest will allow. I have envisioned several scenarios and often rehearse my reactions to the situations that I feel are most probable. The point that I disagree with is your suggestion that I give the bad guys what they want and hope that they will leave us alone. My research and experience tells me that the odds are that they will not leave any witnesses to their crime, especially when they realize that they have robbed a police officer. I fully intend to arm myself, no matter the odds and fight it out to the end. I will never back down and I will never give up. Luckily here in Arizona, the laws give me a lot of latitude when defending my home and family. There are many worse things than dying, trying to protect and preserve that which you hold dear.

Judy June 2, 2012

As a 78 year old pill-popper, I confess it never would have occured to me that we senior citizens are an ideal source of prescription drugs of all kinds. My husband and I live in an area of mostly older people and most of us would be no match for young thugs looking for drugs. The ideal would be to post a short notice similar to your “What to do?” in every senior center but I don’t know how all of them could be reached. Law enforcement? — Newspapers?

watchdog June 2, 2012

Since my medical discharge from the army I’ve been on various pain killers. OPSEC is vital when picking up those kinds of meds. I would be considered a great “hit” by some “stone head”. I drive with my wife to the pharmacy which is just down the street a short walk away. While I wait to pick up the meds at the counter I scan to see who is in the immediate vicinity (code orange) and make sure no one knows what I’m buying. When I get in the vehicle I lock the doors right away. After the bottle of meds is used up I destroy the lable before it goes into the trash. In this day and age you can’t afford to be careless. imho

Michael June 3, 2012

Good plans.

I know of a few cases where Adult Family Homes and Group Homes have been robbed for drugs, not many but it happens.

TiredOldGuy June 3, 2012

When I need to hide something I keep old tins of boring stuff, such as the cracker tins, and pop it at the back of the pantry. My wife and I know what is in the tins, of course, and nobody else would even bother with them.

RamboMoe June 3, 2012

It’s like my Mom has always said:

Eat your vegetables first, wash behind your ears, and watch out for drug addicts wacked-out on mind-bending hallucinogens that turn them into flesh-eating zombies.

She is a wise woman.

Jason June 3, 2012

Absolutely funny!

Joey June 3, 2012

I don’t know if I agree with the “Give them what they want so you can survive longer” statement. I’m thinking it’s more of a “If you give them what they want, they’re going to kill you anyway, so you’d just as soon resist.”

Ken June 14, 2012

I believe in the approach of OPSEC too but also a 2 shot keyhole to the center-mass chest region if you try to come into my house and steal my meds I need to live every day by. Who are you that thinks MY things (being medications or otherwise) is something you think you can just take just because you want it? That’s my approach to people that want to take something from others. I am plenty prepared in my house for intruders and once that few second indentity occurs when I know they shouldn’t be there and they do not get down on their knees with crossed legs and hands in that time, I won’t give them the opportunity to try and assault my family. It just irritates me that these crackheads et al, seem to take from the weak just so they can feed their addiction. I like the idea of hiding things in the back in “boring” tins so they do not know what they are. It is smart to hide your valuables, sometimes in plain sight, so you have them. You almost have to do that these days even if the SHTF doesn’t come about. I now worry about these “over 55 ” mobile home parks that they can get intruded upon for most anything. An idea to the seniors here that read the blog about this, pay a contractor to maybe install a floor safe in your back closet and cover it with the cut out of the rug and then cover that with a box or stack of boxes for your long term valuables. And for things like your medications, keep only a few days or one weeks worth out to get and use and then put the rest in cans in the pantry in the back that look normal. Also, the internet has sites that give free plans on how to build false walls and false storage in desks and furniture. I would not place a lot of money into huge alarm systems other than maybe a small dog or two that will bark with intruders. I am in the process of building a bed headboard that underneath just past my pillows, I can reach under and pull out my 9mm and .45 and mags from a flip out storage area that looks solid and normal so when I am sleeping and get woke up, all I do is reach straight under from my pillow and pull it out. I am a woodworker and this came to mind with no plans but will look like nothing is different when I am done.
Anyway, I think if we all just practice OPSEC, common sense, and some creativity, we will manage better than those that think dialing 911 is the answer. My problem is still what to do if the grid goes down and pharmacies don’t dispense medications. I take pain medicine daily for my headaches from a spinal injury and can’t even get out of bed with out it. I have been reading as much as I can on natural medicine but so far nothing. If anybody has any links or information, I desperately could use it. My sister is in the same boat with her fybromyalgia and looking to me for help and info. (sorry for the long post)

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