Gun Rights Battle in Connecticut

I don’t know if you’ve been following what’s been going down in Connecticut since Jan. 1, but what happens there could very well set a precedent for gun owners across the country. Call it ignorance, call it civil disobedience, or explain it away by saying, “they must not have known”, but however you put it, there could very well be some serious rumbling coming out of Southern New England.

Law-abiding gun owners waiting in line to register firearms.

Law-abiding gun owners waiting in line to register firearms.  

In case you haven’t been following this situation (it’s been downplayed now with other soon-to-be-old-news news stories), I’ll give you a quick synopsis: (you can read this too, or do a Google search on “CT gun rights battle”)On January 1, 2014, the state of Connecticut passed a law that requires anyone owning a gun or guns with certain characteristics (the evil “assault weapon”) – as well as any high-capacity magazines (!), capable of holding more than 10 rounds. Citizens possessing these types of firearms were given a deadline to register these guns and the magazines – there were over 100 types of firearms in the category. Owners were allowed to be grandfathered to keep them, but the guns had to be registered, and the owners fingerprinted and submit all their personal information into a statewide registry. If they did not submit to registering their guns and magazines once the deadline passed, they would be criminals, guilty of a class D felony. A Class D felony in CT is the lowest felony charge, with 1-5 years jail time and up to $5,000 in fines….but the real kicker is that once you’re a felon, you may no longer posses ANY weapon, let alone a dreaded “black gun”. The guns may be seized by the law once you are a felon.

 

What happened? Well, as can be seen in the photo above, many citizens of the Constitution State (ironic, isn’t it?) fell in line, literally and figuratively, with the letter of the law, and submitted to registering their legally-purchased guns. But it’s what DIDN’T happen that’s causing the stir: an estimated 100,000-350,000 gun owners did NOT register their guns, and only 36,932 high-capacity magazines were registered. Huh. Hundreds of thousands of gun-owning citizens who did nothing wrong guilty of nothing whatsoever – are suddenly felons, with the stroke of a pen and the strike of a clock hand.

 

Lawmakers are stunned; they expected this to go smoothly. They are now faced with the issue of what to do: backpedal and repeal, no nothing and look like fools, or aggressively go after these suddenly-illegal guns and gun owners. People from all over the country are rallying in support of CT gun owners, and law enforcement officers (some of whom did not register their guns!)  are refusing to enforce the law, as they believe it blatantly flies in the face of the 2nd amendment of the U.S. Constitution. This article sums up the feelings of many of the state’s gun owners, and is worth a read. 

 

The_Family How does this affect us, as preppers, people who are prepared? Well, if things go south for CT gun owners, states across the nation that don’t want their citizens possessing this type of weaponry could drop their own similar bills, stating that Connecticut is now the status quo. Say you wanted an MIA, AK-47, M1 carbine, Mini-14, AR-15 as a SHTF gun? Oops, too bad. Even though you bought it legally with money you worked hard for and it was 100% kosher when you bought it, a government lawmaker (who is protected by people with these same guns) with a hair across his/her ass thinks YOU shouldn’t have it, so you’re now potentially a felon, expect the SWAT team at your door with their AR-15s drawn, anytime now.

Folks, I’ve read articles that state that this is no big deal, but I’ve also read that  as soon as they start enforcing this law on a door-to-door basis, it will be the next revolution, the ultimate slap in the face to the law-abiding citizens and the constitution they live under. The first person that takes a stand for his rights and gets gunned down refusing to give in (having been around gun guys my whole life, I KNOW it will happen if it goes that far) will instantaneously become a scapegoat and a martyr, polarizing a healthy chunk of the nation against each other…and things will go downhill very quickly after that.

 

I think that what will actually happen will fall between the two extremes – (almost) nobody wants full-scale revolution, especially the lawmakers… but what will transpire is anyone’s guess. It’s definitely worth following, in any case.

 

What do you guys think of this…the potential outcome, the attack on our rights, the absurdity of it all? I would like to hear from both sides of the fence on this issue, if you’d care to join in. I know I have my thoughts on the issue, but I respect everyone’s opinion, and I hope our readers do as well. Let’s hear it!

 

Stay safe!

-TRW

45 comments… add one
  • Newfie March 14, 2014, 7:32 am

    They could just keep their new law on the books and do nothing about it. Only use it when they happen to go after someone and find illegal firearms. That way they can lay even more criminal charges on a person.
    Be prepared to go to jail if caught with an unregistered firearm.
    That is how it is in Canada.
    The news headlines here for crime is possession of drugs and 15 firearms charges for a sniper rifle, AKA a .50cal muzzle loader. This is a true story.
    http://www.peelpolice.ca/en/news/index.aspx?newsId=423d9706-8ae9-4f58-b060-e164462a9b7c

    Just noticed when I went to grab the link they changed sniper rifle to muzzle loader.

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    • Anonymous March 14, 2014, 7:20 pm

      In Arizona , we have few gun laws , and registration is prohibited .

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  • Newfie March 14, 2014, 7:37 am

    http://globalnews.ca/news/1206052/18…e-george-raid/

    Another Canadian gun crime: NOTE: “two .22 calibre Mossberg semi-automatic rifles made to resemble M-16-type assault rifles”

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  • Road Warrior March 14, 2014, 7:40 am

    That’s a good point, and a very likely outcome.

    The thing that many people are worried about is the fact that once US citizens pass a NICS background check, their records BY LAW are destroyed, except for the hard copy that resides in the FFL holder’s files. SO, in THEORY, the ATF would have no way to tell WHO has these guns. Yet, I’m told they have records of these purchases, which would mean a database of gun owners and types of guns has been started against federal law. That’s what a big part of this battle is, too.

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    • Wild Weasel March 15, 2014, 12:39 pm

      RW
      I work at a LGS and we are only required to keep the records for 7 years but a hard copy of every transaction is sent to the ATF. We ship any where from 1-3 boxes of forms every month, these boxes are the ones that ream copy paper come in to give you an idea.

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  • Roseman March 14, 2014, 9:21 am

    That’s exactly right RW. The CT state police, not the Feds, have been amassing the records of ALL firearm background checks since at least the early 90s.
    I have been unable to find the legal vehicle used to accomplish this as all background checks must be expunged after six months. That’s why the state already knows where all the guns are or at least where they are suppose to be.
    Previous to the new law, they have had no way of knowing if you retained possession of a gun or sold it. Part of the new law addresses this by expanding the background checks to private sales. If I want to give a rifle to one of my children, they must now submit to a background check.
    What this law effectively becomes is total state gun registration.
    I have guns that were purchased long before this (unconstitutional) gun record keeping policy was implemented but as us old guys die off, our heirs will have to get the guns registered or move them out of state. Eventually, the state police will know who owns what and where all legal guns reside. The perfect model for Obama.
    Of course, felons are exempt from this program.

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    • Steve March 14, 2014, 11:16 am

      If I were a mature resident of Connecticut, I’d write pre-dated letters giving my old guns to my grandchildren, sign them and put them in my safe. And when I passed years from now, the grandchildren could take the guns and the “proof” they owned them before background checks were required. This would work for firearms not required to be registered.

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      • Roseman March 14, 2014, 3:00 pm

        My research shows the state police have been keeping the register since 1991 so they have no way of knowing about any guns purchased or transferred before then. But all said guns have to be legal, meaning any ARs or any others on the banned list would still have to be registered no matter when they were acquired.

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        • Roseman March 14, 2014, 3:14 pm

          Also, the state has maintained the register for handguns since they took over the may issue handgun concealed carry law in 1965 so it’s just legal long guns that would unknown to them before 1991.

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          • T2green March 17, 2014, 1:58 pm

            They would have no idea about all guns purchased out of state, private party sales, or family transfers due to death.

  • kevin March 14, 2014, 9:52 am

    if the government is STUPID enough to try to enforce these ILLEGAL bs laws then so be it

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  • LAPatriot March 14, 2014, 10:05 am

    The founders of this great nation went to great lengths to bolster our God-given right to own weapons comparable to those in possession by the standing armies of the several states. The 2nd Amendment reaffirms the right to own firearms for defense of our lives, families, and proprty, and makes provision for the formation of the (deamonized) militia should it become necessary for us to stand against a tyrannical government in our own country. The protection of life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness was covered in the Constitution, which was written based on religious principles, and guaranteed for ALL. Our government is constantly chipping away at our Constitution, and along with it, our rights as human beings…..God-given, and guaranteed by the Constitution. The stand taken in CT could very well be the catalyst to inspire patriots all across this great nation to stand against tyranny. Rallies are being held nationwide in support of those who have refused to bow to unconstitutional laws being passed and implemented. Patriots nationwide are awake and taking a stand. No one wants to see this situation escalate, and hopes are that lawmakers will come to their senses and repeal these unconstitutional laws before hard choices must be made. Because gun registration and confiscation always preclude government takeover and many times, genocide, I firmly stand with the gun owners in CT against tyranny!

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  • SEBAGO DAD March 14, 2014, 10:06 am

    Geeee. I thought that they weren’t coming for our guns. I mean that’s what they tell us whenever they are trying to sell “reasonable compromise”.

    Registration of either guns or owners must be resisted at all costs.

    The only “Reasonable Compromise” is NO COMPROMISE AT ALL.

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    • Hildegard March 15, 2014, 11:38 pm

      The pro-tyrant, antigun gang NEVER compromises. What they call a compromise is that they simply demand less. You can give up 80% of your demands yearly and still get what you want in five years. Accepting “compromises” is what has gotten us to where we are today.

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  • SEBAGO DAD March 14, 2014, 10:16 am

    “I give my left nut to bang down your door and come for your gun …… you idiot grow up.” – Officer Joseph Peterson, Branford, CT Police Department. This in response to outspoken 2 Ammendment advocate John Cinque who has openly refused to register.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03/10/officer-reportedly-tells-citizen-i-give-my-left-n-to-bang-down-your-door-and-come-for-your-gun/

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    • JSW March 14, 2014, 11:44 pm

      And this story about Peterson has put the CT police on notice. Branford’s chief has asked Cinque for advice on how to stop any violence against Peterson (why stop it? he deserves what he wants to give) or any other police who may have the same thoughts.
      At the moment, Cinque’s recording has pretty much stymied CT’s lawmakers and now it’s their turn to either ‘put up or shut up’. How do they do so? By either going for the brass ring and start a war, or repeal the foolish laws. There really is no middle ground on this issue, in CT or any other state.
      I pray that all gun owners in every state will be so stalwart as CT is proving to be. I apologize for ever being snide about CT gun owners.

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      • Hildegard March 15, 2014, 11:51 pm

        I bet the sheep who stood in line to register REALLY feel like chumps now.

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    • Hildegard March 15, 2014, 11:50 pm

      Love to hear how he squirms when on the receiving end of threats of violence. He terrorizes citizens on a daily basis. I’m sure his home address, etc is all over the internet. Expect the JBTs to whine to have their personal information kept secret. They’re all shitting blood at the thought that people won’t just wait for them to ‘stack up’ outside their homes. If they try to enforce this thing, geurilla warfare in Iraq and Afghanistan will seem tame.

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  • Steve March 14, 2014, 11:25 am

    Part of our battle is language. One shouldn’t call a baby in the womb the “products of conception” unless one plans on killing it

    And we really shouldn’t call the those who break down your door and kill your dog a SWAT team. The WWI German Storm Troopers has special weapons and tactics. But “Storm Troopers” sounds a lot more appropriately pejorative than “SWAT team”.

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  • Pineslayer March 14, 2014, 12:58 pm

    I had to quit reading that WND link. Scary and infuriating.

    All these steps to subdue “US” have been done before, throughout history. All end badly. We need to pass a law that forces elected officials to take a history course and pass it before they step one foot inside the legislative halls. It would nice if they understood the Constitution too. I am probably asking too much.

    How does all of this play into the last post? Will states survive the coming insurrection?

    Since so many anti-freedom people on board with a fascist state, maybe we need to develop a “Matrix” world for them to live in. A win-win for all :)

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    • irishdutchuncle March 14, 2014, 2:10 pm

      they already live in an “alternative universe”, those of us stuck here, in “reality” are the ones with a problem…

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  • anothermom March 14, 2014, 3:24 pm

    Don’t think this will not happen to you. New York State’s deadline is fast approaching too.
    While there cannot be a federal gun registration, there is nothing said about a state registration, and this is what this is.
    They have militarized our police force, and they spy on us as much as possible, and now they are getting the states to do what they cannot do.

    Everyone needs to watch Connecticut and New York to see how the state government responds to the people who practice Civil Disobedience by not registering their firearms.

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    • JSW March 14, 2014, 11:49 pm

      New Jersey, Colorado, Dalifornia, Minnesota… the list is growing.

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  • Mountainwoman75 March 14, 2014, 6:03 pm

    Don’t think the “Mooncalf” in Sacramento, CA isn’t watching this one. We can’t be far behind on this after the God-awful stuff he’s already signed into law.

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  • Ray March 14, 2014, 9:03 pm

    The real scary problem, is that we will all soon have a choice Turn ’em in or fight to the death. Cause , no two ways about it ,we will give unconditional surrender, or be hunted down one at a time and murdered. Y’all need to understand that this isn’t just about a few state laws, this is about a test to see if we will fight or fold. Once we give up our rights they are gone forever. This is the communist takeover your dady was afraid of, and it ends with slave labor at the front gate of the death camp. If we give up our guns we are slaves to be used and thrown away as the government sees fit. I think I would rather be dead than to be treated like the people of Boston, New York, Chicago Or any of the communist shit holes in New England.

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  • Steve suffering in NJ March 14, 2014, 11:07 pm

    Close friend of mine went through a nasty divorce. His ex reported he threatened to kill her and he had guns. Police came to confiscate his guns due to the allegations of his ex.

    Oddly enough many arms that were acquired through conventional channels were not on the confiscate list? So I question the accuracy of said record keeping.
    This said I don’t trust anyone who wants to disarm me. A quick look at history will show what happens when’s government disarms there people.

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    • JSW March 14, 2014, 11:53 pm

      The police probably used his wife to make the list and she only knew a few, which is typical of most marriages, IMO. Duno if you’re married, but if so, ask your wife to name all the weapons you own (or don’t, since it could be encouragement in times of trouble…). Heck, sometimes I even forget which I lost when the canoe capsized. :’/

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      • Steve suffering in NJ March 15, 2014, 12:48 pm

        JSW

        Damn some luck. Same thing happened to me.

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  • Mike March 15, 2014, 7:58 am

    DHS and the militarization of the police can only lead to one thing. Dictatorship. Does the US actually believe, that can win a gorilla war against the people? What do you think. The US has never won such a war yet. You may imprison and kill people, but you cannot kill a idea. Do you want to end up like England? Where the government controls every aspect of your life? Every aspect! They now can deem that you are not capable of raising your children, if you harbor anti government ideas. You know years ago when the movie V can out, I told people that this was not a movie but a prequel of what was to come. How long will we standby and do nothing? How many rights will be taken away from us? How many people will have to die before the people rise? The problem lies in the sheeple, as long as Joe has his beer and football is on TV, he is contempt. He will prod along like a sheep going to the slaughter never realizing what is happening. He will lose eveything due to taxes and the economy, his daughters will be raped or mugged by illegal immigrants, he will have no voice and will be called a racists if he speaks out. This is the world of liberal multiculturalism my friends. The problem is, this is already happening.
    I will assume most of you are middle age or young here. I had the chance to grow up in the 50-60’s era. People left their doors unlocked to their houses. Neighbors, children played outside. Most people went to church on Sunday and the family stayed together. There was no foul music blaring through the streets, people wore their clothes normally, and teachers were respected. Every kid had a cap pistol, and a Daisy BB gun. Every kid carried a pocket knife even to school! Kids played games such as cowboys and Indians. By the time I was 7 years old, My dad would drop me off in the woods, tell me to hunt in a direction and he would meet up later. Like most boys in the south, we grew up hunting and fishing by 6-7 years old. What went wrong? The government will never defeat us. I am not going to say the cost will not be high, because it will. It will be bloody, it will be fought in your own back yard, and your children s children will learn of it. To all who oppose us, if you think this will be a walk in the park—you might think long and hard.

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  • SEBAGO DAD March 15, 2014, 10:44 am

    In a new letter that has just gone out to owners who have not registered, apparently the State is taking a more conciliatory tone and is saying that the owner is “in compliance with the new state law” if their items are no longer in Connecticut, have been made inoperable or were sold to an authorized gun dealer.

    Somebody is trying to save face here and keep the ground they have gained. They know that if they don’t back down a little now, they face a repeal effort and could lose all of their ‘progress’.

    It’s almost as if the State of CT is saying “It’s okay! Lie to me!”

    Now is the time to keep the pressure on, force the issue and real this law …

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  • TyrannyOfEvilMen March 16, 2014, 12:41 am

    It seems to me that people who failed to register their now illegal firearms and magazines in Connecticut have two choices: (1) Stay and wait for the Nazis to kick in their doors or (2) Move to a free state.

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    • Anonymous March 17, 2014, 10:00 pm

      Thats the problem , this has not been challenged in a federal court and made a national stink , I feel they will loose in the federal court and be forced to amend the law …..which should have been done from day one , which is to grandfather exsisting weapons . Thank god I live in probably the most gun free state in the union , Arizona , YEEE HAW !!!!!

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    • Anonymous March 17, 2014, 10:01 pm

      Thats the problem , this has not been challenged in a federal court and made a national stink , I feel they will loose in the federal court and be forced to amend the law …..which should have been done from day one , which is to grandfather existing weapons . Thank god I live in probably the most gun free state in the union , Arizona , YEEE HAW !!!!!

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  • Babycatcher March 16, 2014, 1:30 pm

    I’d move! God bless the gun owners who are standing for the Constitution!

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  • Larry March 16, 2014, 6:39 pm

    Perhaps the first case in CT in which a citizen is brought up on charges under the new law will be a perfect opportunity for the exercise of jury nullification.

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  • LGMan March 17, 2014, 2:56 pm

    This is the way it started in Canada in the 90’s with the Long Gun Registry. They estimated less than half the people stepped up and registered their long guns, but the government didnt do anything about it. They didnt have to. Form then on, you could never let that gun be seen in public. You cant take it to the range, you cant hunt with it, god help you if you defended your life with it, any of those actions would now make you a criminal if seen with it. So the same will happen here. Arrest them all at once and you have revolution. Arrest them one at a time, when they are already in trouble for some other offense, and slowly they will achieve their goal.

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    • lateToTheParty March 20, 2014, 10:45 am

      Simple answer there LG; start teaching lessons in hobby gun production. Last I knew, the BATF was still not prosecuting the makers of these and you can run around with any non-regulated item without fear; there is no need for anyone to register them and if people see it, so what?!!! Since they don’t have a list of those AND they are legal, the BATF either needs to administratively cut this out of their public information/process or the grabbers have given us a route to fight them directly.

      You don’t get “We know what you have” when they can’t know what you have. Sure 99% of “home made”/hobby firearms will be less durable, accurate and repairable than commercial items, BUT if you can produce them in droves, that tends to even things out.

      One other thing I’ve seen that is cool as can be (to me) is AR’s (etc.) that are not ‘militarized looking’ – wooden stocks, no pistol grips. Except the look of the upper/lower, the AR is the same (in general) as any generic semi-auto rifle. If it’s the ‘big black scary’ gun people are afraid of we can make these and go “What’s the difference between this (AR with wood) vs say a TC 30-06 in synthetic?”

      I agree we have the right to bear what we need, but sometimes you have to beat them at their own games.

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      • lateToTheParty March 20, 2014, 11:14 am

        And no – I don’t mean give in. I mean just for showing those who aren’t committed either way. The grabbers are saying it’s military (AK,AR…) and we (the good guys) are trying to show ‘it’s a RIFLE not a gatling gun!’

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      • LGMan March 21, 2014, 11:51 am

        If you mean for the home made solution to apply to Canada, then no, that wont work. If they cant look it up with their big black book and identify that what you are holding is a non-restricted rifle, then its instantly a ‘prohibited’ category gun, which is a world of hurt for the holder.
        If you mean that for a US solution, isnt that the exact opposite of what you want? You dont want inferior guns, you want the right to carry whatever gun is sensible. And as for educating antis about the difference between guns, well, good luck. They dont care, they want to ban them all.

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        • Anonymous March 26, 2014, 11:45 pm

          Most Communists do not like guns of any kind …….and we all know how those people end up living , when the government they trust so much , are the only ones that have them .

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      • Anonymous March 26, 2014, 11:43 pm

        The Ruger mini 14 or mini 30 , is the same way , it doesnt look the part .

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  • sirlancelot March 22, 2014, 1:14 am

    No doubt law makers in Connecticut are staying up late trying to figure out how to best proceed.

    Liberals are not ones to back down especially when they feel brave having some new, fresh bogus law on the books.

    The have used the supreme court to advance their agenda and their Messiah just uses “executive orders” to by pass the Constitution.

    It will take some drastic measure to get this crowd to back off and there won’t be any help from the sheep either.

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  • sirlancelot March 22, 2014, 1:16 am

    No doubt law makers in Connecticut are staying up late trying to figure out how to best proceed.

    Liberals are not ones to back down especially when they feel brave having some new, fresh bogus law on the books.

    The have used the supreme court to advance their agenda and their Messiah just uses “executive orders” to by pass the Constitution.

    It will take some drastic measure to get this crowd to back off and there won’t be any help from the sheep either.

    P,S. still hate the floatie things

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  • sirlancelot March 22, 2014, 1:16 am

    P,S. still hate the floatie things

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  • ElPolacko March 31, 2014, 12:58 pm

    History repeats itself:

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during
    periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they
    had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and
    simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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