The sad events of Aurora, Colorado are already spreading ripples. 12 dead, 50+ wounded, all from one deranged individual with an arsenal and a unsuspecting crowd of people. Gun control advocates are already demanding politicians start talking about gun violence and how to prevent it.
Rudy Giuliani has already been on the airwaves talking about more gun control measures.
My position for many years has been that just as a motorist must have a license, a gun owner should be required to have one as well. Anyone wanting to own a gun should have to pass a written exam that shows that they know how to use a gun, that they’re intelligent enough and responsible enough to handle a gun. Should both handgun and rifle owners be licensed…we’re talking about all dangerous weapons.
Source: Boston Globe, p. A4 Mar 21, 2000
Thankfully Pres. Obama has continued to avoid any mention of more gun control, which is good if he wants to keep this mid-western gal’s vote. I don’t know if that’s a reflection of his own views or just a reflection of the reality of modern politics, which is to say the political firepower wielded by the National Rifle Association. The arguments of those who would like us to be more like the UK, just don’t seem to make many inroads into the beliefs of most Americans.
A Pew Poll in March found the public fairly split on the issue. Forty-nine percent of respondents said it was more important to protect the right to own guns. Forty-five percent said it was more important to control ownership.
The president’s view is that we can take steps to keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have them under existing law. But there is no indication that existing law would have done anything to stop James Holmes, the suspected gunman.
No gun control law, however restrictive, can reliably stop every massacre. But people are asking if the assault ban would have stopped the the AR-15 rifle used in the shooting. The assault-weapons ban also prohibited the manufacture of magazines of more than 10 rounds. Mr. Holmes, according to police, bought a high-capacity “drum magazine” that could hold 100 rounds and fire as many as 60 rounds in a minute. High-capacity magazines were also used in the Tucson and Fort Hood shootings.
What do you think? Is there a middle ground of gun control where a rural hunter can get her guns and ammo, but the crazy homicidal maniacs are denied? Anyone worried that their favorite weapons are about to get hard to find?
-Calamity Jane
It is not about rural hunters getting guns and ammo, this is about our rights as Americans to own and use firearms.
You can write 500 laws and it still wouldn’t stop people who have a mission
If written laws were really effective we wouldn’t need many past the first 10.
There are only 3 types of magazines PC correct (6-10 rounds) Standard capacity (AR’s 30 round has been standard for nearly 50 years) and HI-Caps, (anything that holds more than the standard magazine for a given model gun)
But the AWB never banned anything except the sale of certain guns , with certain features made after a certain date from being sold to civilans. Anyone that was around heard pre ban and post ban, and you could buy sell, trade pre bans till the cows came home, and post bans simply didn’t have “evil features” like flash hiders, or bayonet lugs.
You could go to any gun show after September 14th 1994 and buy 30 round AR-15, and AK47 magazines if you were willing to pay inflated prices. It was interesting how fast magazine prices dropped when people found out the AWB would expire.
What worries me most is they will try to limit ammo sales, or track it the way they do sinus meds.
And like the Duck says, its not about the right to hunt. The 2nd amendment protects the 1st, as well as all the others.
The timing of the whole thing — just days before the arms treaty vote by the UN — stinks! The story stinks and has a ton of unanswered questions and suspicious details. There is so much about this story that says False Flag. Seeing as that James Holmes is being portrayed as the Joker by the media, it only seems appropriate to quote him from The Dark Night movie — “It’s all part of the plan.”
Here is what I would like to know…?
Where is this supposed girlfriend that he recently broke up with?
How did he kick in the exit door? Those doors are designed to only be opened from the inside.
Was it him who answered the phone or another person who then got up to open then door for Holmes?
He’s found by his car — whacked out on drugs, with body armor, his guns, and a bunch of bullets — after shooting all those people for “no apparent reason”, and he just gives up with not even the slightest struggle?
Then he let’s the cops know that his apartment is rigged with booby-traps and explosives. Why bother going through all the effort to create what was called “highly sophisticated” traps and explosive devices, and then warn the people they were meant to kill about their existence?
Why did previous news articles mention that “Public records indicate that Holmes lived with two roommates, also from California, in the Aurora building where police have found explosives…”, and now those same articles have been modified to exclude that tidbit of information?
How did this guy who was supposedly unemployed and going to school via a grant have all the money needed to buy an AR-15, .40 caliber pistol, 7000 rounds of ammunition, body armor, tear gas, explosives, etc?
excellent questions.
the so-called experts are saying this won’t change a thing. hope they are correct. media hype seems to be dying down some. bloomy is touting a ban on 50 calibers, tho none was used in this case, and the 94 ban but the ar15 was exempt w/out a flash supressor, and he calmly changed mags so hicap ban wouldn’t work either. the media is trying to make hay of his 6k rounds. so what, he only used a hundred or so. they would flip out if they got a look at my stash. and 4 weapons is hardly a “massive cache”. no, in this case at least, more controls don’t pass the smell test even to the sheeple on the street. what isn’t being reported but i hear time and again is the “what if just one person had been armed?” statement. the media won’t ask that one. if i were caught up in that disaster, first i’d have been armed, sign or no sign. second, i’d sue the theatre for failing to create a safe place to watch a movie, negligence. i’d put up a new sign: warning, an unknown percentage of movie goers may be legally armed. see how many “massacres” accur then.
That was definitely the first thing in my mind, “why wasn’t anyone else armed?”
Tam QotD from wednesday, quoting HL :
“… I am also confused that someone didn’t take Holmes’ guns away from him during the shooting and use them against him,
because I have been told that is what happens when you carry,…”
that about says it all.
NEw gun control is ALWAYS coming. THe people behind that movement are crazy, misinformed finatical control freeks. If you leave it up to them they will micro manage every aspect of your life, they tie in all the way back to the Kings and Queens we threw out of here and now they are trying to get back in. I fear that we will eventually have no CHOICE but to physically throw them out again.
But 45, their *intentions* are GOOD. And after all, shouldn’t we listen to our intellectual betters?
/sarc
I dont see new control issues coming our of this during the election cycle but Obama isnt going on the hunt for the gun control issue in the open… this is a political reality for the 12 election…. BUT the July 28 vote at the UN on the Small Arms treaty is Obamas way of getting what he wonts… so he isnt saying anything but is warming up is hand for his signature… dont kid your self if the senate ratafies the treaty and obama gets reelected he will enforce the wording of the treaty on the U.S citizenry…. because he has nothing to lose in his last term… this and the possability of replacing 3 supream court judges.. well you can just kiss the 2nd amendemant good by…
fortunately, we don’t need no steeenking second amendment.
please view the article of a similar title, in “Backwoods Home” magazine. (issue #58) it is the best explanation i’ve ever read about “rights”. http://www.backwoodshome.com
Phila. Mayor Michael Nutjob, couldn’t even wait until all of the bodies had been removed from the crime scene, before calling for more gun laws.
If the President still even had the possibility of receiving your vote, then you are either sadly un-informed, or are mentally disturbed. Please read up on the “gunwalker”/ “fast and furious” scandal. while i’d like to believe that “Democrats” are mostly mere buffoons, I have concluded that they are EVIL. everyone in that administration must know by now that they are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Mexicans. (all in the name of “more gun control”)
at best, they are living in an alternative reality.
although the “ERA” was rejected by the States, Democrats and the “PC” crowd have consistently acted as though it had been ratified.
except they don’t believe in an equal right to life. and really they don’t believe in any rights at all. they regard rights as mere privileges which they can bestow, or revoke, as the mood strikes them.
in the USA, rights are an endowment by our “Creator”.
… and by the way, what kind of job can I get, where I can buy 6K rounds, and 4 Primo firearms in such a short period of time? plus meaningful supplies of chemicals? I thought I was making a pretty good wage, but that kind of purchasing power is not something I’ve ever experienced.
Visa/Mastercard
my credit limit on any one card has never been high enough to purchase 6K rounds. i wonder how many accounts he had.
mikeV. over at sipsey street answered my question.
the shooter had a govt. grant.
we where LUCKY if this loony toon had used moltov cocktails or in other words FIREBOMBS we would be reading about 100s of dead and dying with A LOT more with with serious burns his gun where only a TOOL nothing more if some terrorist or some slimy punk or loony toon wanna get a firearm NOTHING WILL STOP EM
If he hadn’t aqcuired firearms, he’d have just used all the explosives.
Outlawing, restricting or other methods of gun control, don’t work. Haven’t in new York, Chicago, London, Canada, etc. Gun control advocates say outlawing guns will limit the amount of deaths an individual can cause. Um, as a soldier, I know the amount of devestation an ied causes, and it would have been just as effective, and are in common use all over the middle east, even though they have guns. Don’t give gun control an inch, or they’ll take it all. Sorry, rant done
“If he hadn’t aqcuired firearms, he’d have just used all the explosives.”
Yea, gun control would have really stopped Timothy McVeigh …
I was living in Oklahoma when Timothy blasted that building, my grandpa had a meeting in the Murrah building planned for that day. And ya, gun control won’t do a thing as long as there are ready sources for ammonia nitrate.
No matter what any of us do OR say the anti-guners will never listen. This IS NOT and NEVER WAS about guns, its about control. It’s about hearding people into cattle cars. It’s about barb wire. It’s about killing those that resist and enslaveing the rest. It’s about telling you what to think,what to eat, what to say, how to worship. This is the point to decide ; will we fight for freedom ? or worship a god king? Will we be slaves?
We all know what gun control is – aiming carefully.
You voted for Obama?
my thoughts, exactly!
…and plans to again……?! Wow!
Worried about gun control and willing to give Obama a complete pass on Fast and Furious?
Conspiracy theories are sometimes correct —
With the UN Small Arms Treaty (Universal gun ban on private ownership) and the election looming, I have been expecting “events” to sway the public opinion. (Read Matt Bracken’s “Enemies, Foreign and Domestic”)
Starving college students will often do things like participate in studies to help their budget (I participated in several drug studies to keep the tank filled). We have a Neuro-science major who goes nuts and murders a bunch of people, then shuts down. Was he programmed with drugs and or hypnosis ? (Manchurian Candidate)
Can you trust a government who gave us “Fast and Furious”? Remember Ruby Ridge and Waco?
I think this quote from our founding father explains it all:
It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.
George Washington
In other words punishing me and every one else who has done nothing wrong just in case is wrong.
Why do I keep seeing the rate-of-fire quote of 60 rounds per minute? AR-15′s in the hands of a skilled shooter can be fired at a rate 5 times that. One shot per second? I think a decent revolver shooter could keep up that pace for a minute with speedloaders.
Jane,
Serious question, why did you vote for Obama? He is the LEAST experienced person – by miles – in any government (City, County, State & Federal) in America before he took the Presidency. The rest of the list is miles long. It is like taking my 19 year old son & making him the CEO of Microsoft or Apple or Exxon. The mere thought of that is laughable.
You seem to be a relatively intelligent person & am I totally baffled at how anybody can truly vote him into office – any office. BTW, saying he is better than X is a poor excuse because it is an emotional vote & you (collective noun) should vote for somebody based upon merit & a track record.
Please enlighten me, I am very curious.
Whether she voted for Obama or McCain……what’s the difference?? Other than the speed at which we have arrived at where we are they are two sides of the same coin…..both progressives and both for out-of-control, monstrous, heinous government. Voting for Romney won’t do anything to change our system or reign in the government. I live in New Hampshire and witness, everyday, the aftermath of Romney’s time in office. Gun control, healthcare, government largesse…..take your pick. We are in the era of ever-growing tyranny and gun-control is simply a symptom of the larger disease.
I agree with you by in large which was my greater point – apathy. Jane can make whatever choice she wants, I simply wanted to know how she made her decision because it is an indicator of the direction of our society & how they become swayed by marketing.
If you look at the pure truth of his track record & experience, Obama should have never been elected. Then when he did not provide a birth certificate when asked – nobody would refuse unless they had something to hide – he should have been ousted at that point.
I learned a very hard lesson in the first election I voted in in 1972 by voting for Nixon – it was an emotional, stupid & reactionary vote. When he got busted for Watergate & his house of cards collapsed, I was extremely disappointed, so much so that I refused to vote again for many years.
“Man” is quite easily corruptible & politics is the proving point. The love of money ruins man, then it clouds judgement, separates rational thought into justifications & that is the mindset of the vast majority of our politicians whom lead us.
And what are we become left with? Voting for the lessor of evils.
People like Ross Perot & Ron Paul come along & actually provide a logical, more direct solution(s), gain a good following & the MSM goes on the attack & makes them appear as lunatics. WTF??? These are pretty smart & successful men in their own right & now they are crazy? Please spare me with the biased propaganda ….
American government is totally screwed up & now, thanks to the Internet, the entire world knows the depth of corruption. However, I do view it as a potentially positive thing because the popular vote can actually decide who gets in when they/we have had enough & simply vote for our country instead of a man.
Vote for Jason in 2016
I would agree with you that man is a self-destructive animal. I also agree that Ross Perot and Ron Paul have provided new and appealing viewpoints…..and have brought the wrath of not only the MSM but also the two “opposing parties” of our two-party system. They all smell the change in the air that new and innovative political thought can bring and they will stamp it out whenever possible…..”sheeple thinking and self-governing…not on my watch!!” I see a positive outcome of this, but not if we look at things through the same paradigm or rose-colored glasses of the past. We need to think totally outside the box to make positive, lasting change that will ensure your kids and mine aren’t slaves. I’ll consider Jason for 2016……you don’t wear a hockey mask and carry a chain saw do you?? Not saying that’s a bad thing…..especially if the title of the new movies is “Jason does DC!!”
Hahahahah, that was funny! However, the hockey mask & a chainsaw may be the answer to getting things done …..
I agree with viewing things outside of the box & the need for a paradigm shift. I think people are finally starting to see the forest from the trees – they just need someone like Ron Paul to capture that popular vote.
Hmmmmm, 2016 doesn’t give much time to prepare. Let’s see ….. where is that birth certificate ….
I was sipping a beer while reading your comment Granite. When I got to the mask and chainsaw part I laughed so hard I somehow made beer shoot out of my nose.
Jason, I voted for Obama because I’m staunchly behind the liberal social issues. Namely abortion rights, women’s rights, and equal marriage rights. I’m a registered Independent, and I will throw votes towards the Republicans every once in awhile, if they have a fiscal policy (local stuff I’m talking about here) that I think will improve things for my area. But in general I find republicans hate too many things that I support. I’m extremely luke warm towards Obama, he hasn’t done nearly as much as I hoped for… but c’est la vie. Luke warm is way better than what I feel towards someone like Palin, who would see this country well on the way to a Theocracy within a few years. *shudder*
That said, hopefully we can still be friends. :-D
National elections really don’t effect day to day life much. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, people need to be paying a lot closer to attention to their local county board elections than to the national stuff.
Well Jane, although I believe almost the opposite, I do very much respect your view. You voted wrongly (ha, ha) but stuck with your convictions. I am glad you spoke up. Funny thing about politics – everybody is right & everybody is wrong, it’s a no win.
I whole heartedly agree that local stuff is very important because the individual impact can be far better felt.
Lastly, I couldn’t agree more – Sarah Palin would have been an absolute disaster!
And of course I can be friends with a screaming, liberal, feminist & socialist blogger – I am so funny :-)
I was afraid of that.
DNA science proves the Pro-Life position. How can you look your children in their eyes, and be an “abortion rights” suporter? An elective abortion is a fully premeditated taking of an innocent human life. if you can’t make a case for justifiable homocide, then it is murder. (unless a hysterectomy is medically indicated, for the life or health of the woman, there is no excuse for not carrying a pregnancy to term) in an actual case of forcible rape, maybe you could justify the use of “Plan B”, if taken right away. (not from a pharmacy the next day, as part of the “rape kit” in the ER) Do women really have a “right” to be as irresponsible as males?
Everyone already had equal marriage rights, if he or she was willing to marry someone of the opposite sex. Same sex marriage is legalized benefit fraud.
and incidently it is the “Liberals” who are truly full of hatred, don’t go projecting that onto the rest of us.
**Please Note**
this is a rhetorical question which I asked.
please everyone, Do not harden your hearts any further by putting a retort into words.
I feel so bad for you, any of you, that you think that way.
While you & I share the same, supernatural belief, many do not. Abortion & same sex marriage has raged on for thousands of years, yet those whom believe that is acceptable are separate from any steadfast belief of God and thus, have created their own set of rules to live by.
One can very easily argue that the two aforementioned positions are perfectly ok because, as stated, “they” have defined the rules of life. I know that side all too well because I was there once a few decades ago.
I had once thought that Christians were a group of completely whacked religious bigots who had no issue righteously telling everybody else who did not believe the same way that they are wrong. Further, it can be easily argued that these zealots are full of hatred, i.e. Ku Klux Klan – a full Christ believing believing group.
“If it wasn’t for Christians I’d become one” is an old famous quote attributed to Gandhi and has some powerful truth to it.
While I am on the other side of the fence from Jane, what is the point in “proving” someone wrong? If that’s there position then that’s their position & any amount of arguing will only further embed that position. I am fairly Biblically literate & I cannot think of one thing Jesus said that was argumentative or impassioned with condemnation that if one believed in X.
It all boils down to one thing Irish – choice & that IS God given, no question. ALL individual choices have consequences both good & bad however, only one choice affects eternity. Are God’s issues with same sex marriage, abortion or …. ? I don’t think so – I believe He cares for the individual & the choice they make; Sodom & Gomorrah proved that point thousands of years before Christ did His 3 year ministry.
You know the old saying – hate the sin, love the sinner.
Jason:
Calamity Jane is in a position to influence other women to believe as she does. if she never has an abortion herself, still she might influence another woman to make that choice. There is No safety in numbers on this issue. To be “pro-choice” is to deny the sanctity and the equality of human life. the fetus is a person, in its own right, DNA proves that.
the closest we can get to an objective standard of “right and wrong” is that which the Deity revealed to the “Christians”. Leftists appeal to right/wrong arguments all the time if they believe that will sway you. there is no right or wrong, except that the Deity said so. yet the Deity of the Jews and Christians is their enemy. knowingly ending the life of another person is seldom a riteous act.
… and by the way, the Klan traditionally hated Catholics about as much as they hate everybody else.
So what is she supposed to do, stop because others say it is not morally right? She needs to come to that decision herself. Believe it or not, many people believe homosexual relationships are right in fact, they even have Gay Christian churches. Others believe that abortion is absolutely the right & moral thing to do because it protects the unborn child from future harm.
Who draws the standard or the line of morality? Clearly God in my opinion & based upon study but many do not understand who He is, nor care to go through that discovery process & whose fault is that?
Yes, Jane is in a position to influence but so are many others including extremists like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad – that’s as old as time itself.
It always comes to personal choice & I fully believe that God does influence everybody – Christian or not, which is why we have, at times, an internal conflict with some of the grayer type choices or foxhole conversions (remember the thief on the cross?).
The Christian example to be followed is Jesus & as the bracelet says “What Would Jesus Do”. He did not stand on a soap box with a megaphone yelling at every passerby in a Gay community that they were going to Hell if they did not believe in Him. He wouldn’t picket abortion clinics, stand up & tell Obama he’s destroying the country etc, etc. So, why should we?
Everybody has the right to >> their << opinion whatever that may be, whether it is the influencer or the one in a position of being influenced. Nobody can make anybody do anything, one must always chose. God always provides a way out for those who seek it BUT one MUST seek it & under their own power, it's the way He works.
When we all die we will be judged by God by ourself & are held accountable for what we did as an individual.
To hold someone else accountable for our choices is irresponsible & unBiblical in my opinion.
Here’s an example of what I mean by deception or blindness:
http://www.christchapel.com/index.php
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing”. Edmund Burke
I am not a good man.
I have believed horrible things. I have done horrible things, things which I hope no one else ever finds out about. I am properly remorseful for those things. I can’t comprehend how someone can enthusiastically support “abortion rights” and have a clean conscience. That is beyond “sick”.
Jason: I would direct you to Mt 18:6, although you can find it in Luke and Mark also.
Matthew 18 applies to those who have crossed the line into Jesus’ camp (Christians) not non-believers. However, you may want to read Matthew 7: 1-5 from the Sermon on the Mount.
You said – “I can’t comprehend how someone can enthusiastically support “abortion rights” and have a clean conscience.” I fully understand where you come from – an insider looking out.
The thing is, some people have not fully embraced God through Jesus & simply cannot see what is “wrong”. As an early 20′s man, I was a participant (the donor) in an abortion & I saw nothing wrong with it at all. Today, with my knowledge & beliefs it is a vastly different story.
The famous song – Amazing Grace, written by a human slave trader, has profound meaning especially coming from the writer who was involved in a horrible life, which accepted as normal then converted – note the lyrics below:
Amazing grace, how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost, but now am found,
Was blind but now I see.
We are all blind until we see.
Placing blame on an inanimate object of any type allows the true nature of this to go unaddressed. These guns did nothing of there own will, as they have none, a person did this, not a gun. And banning high cap magazines is saying 10 dead is ok, but not 12. Hold the person accountable, not his tools. And don’t make this person famous, it only encourages more to try. Besides, when did banning anything stop it? Can’t find illegal drugs in your local towns? Maybe we should ban murder? Since we all know criminals will obey new laws.
Amen Brother blaming a gun for killing a person is like blaming a pencil for misspelling a word… But the Left just wonts control…. and they cant do that if we own fire arms…
… an overloaded F-250 killed 14 people that same weekend. will they try to ban pickup trucks next?
That was rude & uncalled for Mall Ninja. Learn to express yourself appropriately.
Whoever cleaned up Mall Ninja’s comment – thanks.
didnt get to read it …………..he say how he feels with no PC BS ?
No, he was being very crass & calling Jane an unacceptable female name, just not cool in my opinion – jerk face
Ha, ha!
Probably some leftist meterosexual Obama supporter in the High School library .
I cannot believe anyone with the type of mindset that thinks in terms of survival would EVER vote for Obama. Unbelievable.
Homicide of all kinds account for 4.8/per 100,000 deaths in the US. That means your chances of dying of homicide in the US are pretty low.
In the US people die prematurely from, smoking, car crashes, heart disease, and diabetes. Working on any one of the these would be more effective at reducing the premature death rate than would any gun control effort.
Oops, that’s 4.8/ homicides per 100,000 PEOPLE, not deaths.
We should not have any fire arm laws, period, if you believe it is a God given right.
Even previously convicted felons should be able to have them. If they are such a threat to society, then kill them or jail them for life, or let them free. As far as I can tell, most of the previous convicted felons that get arrested again for a armed felony, all get guns anyways so they can commit more crimes.
In my world a convicted (of a violent crime) felon committing a second crime with a firearm would automatically earn a public stoning or hanging upon the second conviction.
We can’t keep 20+ million illegal aliens out of our country, including Obama’s aunts and uncles, we can’t keep illegal aliens off public assistance which includes Obama’s aunts and uncles, we can’t keep 10s of billions of dollars of illegal drugs from crossing our borders or out of a warehouse owned by Nancy Pelosi, and we have not been able to prevent only natural born citizens from serving as President as put forth in the Constitution.
So, I don’t know why anyone expects gun laws to be effective at stopping criminal acts if we can’t prevent all that.
No.
I think the current gun laws are more than enough, too much really but they are at least bareable. Violent crimes with happen regardless fo waht the choice of weapon is for the criminal. If not a gun then a bomb, or an axe, knives, swords, etc. Can’t stop IED’s since it’s so easy to make them from just household cleaners and other chemicals. That’s not even taking into account the criminals that just go and buy guns anyways…like they do now. So More strick gun laws will only benefit the criminals and only make things MUCH WORSE for the rest of us !!!
“Is there a middle ground of gun control where a rural hunter can get her guns and ammo, but the crazy homicidal maniacs are denied?”
I can’t believe that anyone on this site would ask a question like this. The second amendment is not about hunting. It is not about regulation. Heck, its not even about guns.
It is not the second part of the amendment that is important. It is the first half: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State”
It doesn’t say a militia is necessary for the security of a communist dictatorship. It doesn’t say a militia is necessary for a the security of a monarchy. It talks about a FREE state. Freedom can only exist when the government knows that the people are able to resist oppression – something that unfortunately still to this date means arms. Only if the government knows that if they turn against their citizens they will be outnumbered and outgunned you can keep your freedom.
Anyone who has ever fought for their freedom knows that. Who did our founding fathers fight? A government. Who did the people in the french revolution fight? A government. Before I go on, do you start to see a pattern here?
Another pattern is also interesting… Hitler initiated gun control and then confiscation very quickly. How about Uganda? If you don’t want to dig up your history books, lets take a slightly less serious example. What did the Ministry of Magic do in the Harry Potter? Controlled the wands of those who could protest the least…
The second amendment is not about hunting. It is not about guns, ammo or whatever you want to do. It is about the right to keep your government from turning against you.
Peter.
Gun Controle = Criminal Empowerment and civil victimization by both criminals and authorities .
………..Fear the government that fears your guns ………
everybody has heard that one , but its true .
Ban everything but muskets and criminals will find a way to exploit their use; and they’ll still get their hands on “banned” guns.
There needs to be middle ground. These idiots would just assume say “no more guns. any kind… ever.” And the other side thinks “no restrictions. any kind… ever.” Ok, people- it won’t work. If for no other reason, there are two sides on opposite ends of the spectrum, both with heels dug in.
Where is middle ground? Lawmakers and Bloom-bungs of the country need to get real, and stop trying to prevent people from buying/possessing things that they haven’t given any reason to NOT have. Us pro-gun folks also need to give a little, too for the sake of getting somewhere. Like, agree to Guiliani’s “test” and “license” ideas, but state that if you DO qualify, then you can have “assault weapons” and hi-cap mags, and anything else they currently regulate. So, make it tougher to get through the door, but once you’re in, you’re IN. All access. I’m good with something like that.
Background check- I’ve got nothing to hide.
7-day wait? I’ve already got guns; i can wait a week for the next one.
Test/license? Works for me… If they can’t pass a basic written/practical test, do i want them having a gun?
Hi-cap, semi-auto, “assault weapons” etc… tell me why i SHOULDNT have any of them!
Ammo amount restrictions? What next? Federal limits on how many beers i can have at the bar? And seriously, I have a pro shooter buddy who shoots 1,000 rds a day when he trains. What’s he gonna do, go work at the grocery store because he can’t train??
Thoughts?
and by the way… this just in: man killed by bayonet lug. In other news, a mass killing involving a collapsible stock.
:-)
Outlaw the guns and only outlaws will have guns.
…. a friend of yours?