Remember I said in my Slide Fire Solutions SSAR-15 Stock – M4/AR15 Legal Full Auto (for a price) post that if I had a chance to try one I’d write a review? Here it is.
Gun dealer, TEOTWAWKI homeboy said, “Come on over and try it out.” I filled to magazines, grabbed my 20″ AR upper and went over. When I arrived he already had the stock mounted on an AR lower with a CMMG .22lr upper. He had heard from another guy that it was possible to get the stock to function with the .22lr upper.
“Let’s go out back,” dude said. So, in a rural-type neighborhood, we went out behind his house and walks a few hundred yards into the woods. “This, right here,” he said, pointing at the ground, “is 300′ from my house and the neighbors” (no houses behind him, the direction we’d be firing, just beside him). “One neighbor is on the state police tactical team, and he won’t care. He might come out to see what we’re doing. The other neighbor is drunk all the time, and although I don’t come out here to shoot often, he usually comes to yell at me when I do.”
“Sounds pleasant,” I thought.
We started with the .22lr upper pictured here on the floor of dude’s garage:
It didn’t work. There wasn’t enough recoil to let the SSAR stock “bump fire” the next round. Dude said his buddy that claimed to get it to work with the .22 upper used a match trigger in the lower, and that maybe that was the difference …. ? I don’t know, but I plinked a few .22 rounds out of it and we promptly moved to the 5.56 upper.
Dude goes first, pulls the trigger, keeps forward pressure on the foregrip and …. “ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba!” A steady stream of shell casing came spitting out, lead spraying down range and the muzzle immediately climbed up. Dude paused, looked back at me with a shit eating grin and “ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba!” Then he laughed. We both laughed.
Then I muckled onto the bad boy and gave that dirt hill I was aiming at holy ole hell. “Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba!” Then it was my turn to wear a shit eating grin. The rifle cycled too fast, actually. Shell casings were a mere few inches apart as they spat out in a steady stream. The muzzle climb was ridiculous. I don’t know how you could come anywhere near fire a controlled, quality burst at a target that way. The first round coming out would be on, but after that, the barrel end was all over the place. Ideally the rifle would get a muzzle brake on the end to help control the climb in a situation like this, but …. we didn’t have one of those.
After the sound of a few magazines of full-auto went sailing through the forest, sure enough, the drunk neighbor came walking through the woods toward us. Gun dealer dude stopped firing, lowered the rifle. Drunk dude was maybe 10′ away from me and the smell of hard booze was overbearing at that distance. The conversation went something like this:
“What are you doing!?” asked drunk dude.
“I’m shootin,'” said firearm dude.
“You can’t shoot out here, you’re on my land.”
“No, I’m on my land. Those are my property pins right over there. I’m 300′ from every house. XXX doesn’t care” (XXX = name of tactical team neighbor).
“I don’t give a [expletive] about XXX. It sounds like you’re shooting inside my house. I’m going to call someone. We’ll see about this.”
“Go ahead and call. I’m in the legal clear.”
“What are you doing?” he asked again, swaying slightly from the booze. “You’re a jerk!”
Then there was a period of uncomfortable silence where they were both just standing there staring at each other and me looking around at the beautiful trees. At one point during this moment of silence, I see drunk dude clench his fist and bring it up only to loosen it and wipe around his face. A few more meaningless words were exchanged and drunk dude walked off, promising this wouldn’t be the end of it. Eager to have the last word, firearm dude asks, “Can you find your way back?”
That moment was about as exciting as firing full auto with the Slide Fire stock. Firearm dude said the neighbor came to over to apologize the next day, theorized his wife gave him hell and made him.
That’s the bulk of my Slide Fire Solutions stock review. Would I buy one? No. It’s a fun toy, but it rips through already expensive ammo like nobody’s business. Firearm dude knew another guy that was going to insert a heavier buffer tube in the rifle to try slowing the rate-of-fire, but the end result would still be the same – lots of ammo in a short amount of time. HOT barrel!
The stock feels “sloppy” as it just moves freely back and forth on its own unless you turn the plastic locking mechanism underneath to hold it in place for single fire only. The stock would be far better if Slide Fire could somehow internalize the moving portion of the stock, so that all of the “sloppiness” was “hidden” inside and the stock was solid on the outside.
I don’t know much money Slide Fire Solutions is making on these things, but they must be making a killing. The minimum dealer order is somewhere on the order of $5,000 wholesale price. At a retail price of about $350 each, for a simple piece of molded plastic, no buffer, no spring, just molded plastic, they must be making money hand over fist.
Will the feds ban these things? Perhaps some day. I’d imagine it’d take one incident where some psycho freak or gang banger opens up with one before it happens. No loss for me. I don’t want one, can’t see why anyone would unless you’ve just got money to burn and/or you have an AR-15 hobby (a.k.a. Black Rifle Disease).
But if they could internalize the stock’s movement and somehow configure it to tri-burst … hmmm …. that might tempt me, but …. I don’t see it happening.
– Ranger Man