Ode to the M1A/FAL

by Ranger Man on August 27, 2008

Oh the M1A, oh the FAL,
what a mighty tool you are.
Used for many years by many people,
in battle rifle land – you are a star.

Whereas the AR-15 shoots the .223
through an itty bitty bore,
your mighty .308
makes you a TEOTWAWKI whore.

Whereas the AK-47 has a
not-so-accurate design,
you with your precision parts
on a 300 yard range do shine.

Of course the AR at 300 yards
will surely reach out,
but 62 grains at that distance,
what goes down – I have my doubts.

LOOK OUT! Mutant Zombie Bikers!
Don’t stand there and shiver.
Grab your .308 rifle.
You know it delivers.

- Ranger Man

BTW: In case you’re a rifle novice . . .

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Also, sounds like those of you that placed an early order on the EMP Commission Report are receiving your copies. “K&S” e-mailed me and said it’s a really good read and the formatting is great. He said the report makes him wonder when an EMP strike will come. Thanks to the dudes and dudettes buying a copy!

MG-42 August 27, 2008

Actually the first two are a H&K 91 and a Cetme. Nice collection though. Where is the Valmet, Galil and SIG AMT?

The R Man August 27, 2008

Actually, isn’t the one off the the far right an FN49-certainly not an M1A.

Loved the poem, regardless.

tweell August 28, 2008

They are a lot of dough, aren’t they? I have sadly chosen the poor man’s substitutes: An Enfield Ishapore .308 and a Russian 91/30 M/N 7.62X54R.

theotherryan August 28, 2008

I handled a bunch of crap made fn fal’s in the mid 00′s and the guns I chose note to buy for 400 bucks I now choose to not buy for 1,oo0 bucks. I could be tempted with a new manufacture fn fal or an hk 91 clone. An M1a is too far out of the budget to be realistic. I don’t know if I will ever go with a .308 because of the end cost of ammo (more so then the cost of the rifle). At 500 bucks a case now it would take a lot to stock up to a reasonable amount.

SurvivalTopics.com August 28, 2008

Choice of rifle is now often dictated by cost of ammo. One solution is to reload.

3rd Man August 28, 2008

The rifle is only as good as the ammunition you can afford to buy. No ammo, a 2000 dollar rifle just as good as 400 dollar AK without ammo. Buy an AK or AR and spend the difference on a good ammo supply. As far as reloading its only good as long as you have the core ingredients to reload ie: powder, primers, bullets. How many people know how to make gun powder, and primers after SHTF? enough said.

streakr August 28, 2008

Try carrying 308 ammo! A 20 round 308 mag weighs twice what a 30 rd 223 mag. You can carry 4oo rounds of 223 for same weight as 150 308s. Personally I prefer MORE AMMO to longer range. My AR is a basic model without all that technocrap that mall ninjas prefer.

Think about where you would (or could) use the 308? Long range shots (200-300m+) will be rare in an urban-suburban environment.

SHTF will find more of us staying home than BO. My nice suburban neighborhood doesn’t have a 100m range that does not intersect another building. YOU CAN’T HIT WHAT YOU CAN’T SEE!!! Most potential threats will be close and fast. A big, long battle rifle is not easily used in tight quarters.

I reload 12 different calibers mainly for cowboy shooting. This is the best way to save money and accumulate your needed ammo.

It’s easy to do and with a Lee single stage kit and dies (under 200) plus brass, bullets, primers and powders you can load new stuff at half the price of new and then reusing the brass even cheaper.

streakr

t August 28, 2008

streakr

its not about range its about stopping power, if i had the choice i would rather be hit by a 55-62 gr 223 than a 180 gr 308 any day.

you need the extra ammo if you actually want to disable your foe’s when you have a 223. in an urban environment a 308 will blast through cinder block with enough energy to take out the target on the other side. with a 223 you need a mag full of ammo to do that.

t

Marine 83 August 28, 2008

I agree with the FN 49 comment.

3rd Man August 28, 2008

308 would be good if your in a one of those in the mob attacking others and attempting to take what they have. If I’m the one under attack by that mob then the more ammo I can carry then the better until I could make an escape. I thought the idea was to try to avoid conflict and stay low. You will not last long if your out there looking for a gunfight with no doctors to patch you up. Besides 5.56 to head or center mass will kill someone just as dead as the 308. If you do not kill him then his buddys will have to deal with him. The fact is most people will be stuck in an urban/suburban area with contact at less than 100 yards if SHTF. A good AR or AK is best for this role along with some quality training. Food for thought most LE shooting incidents in the US involving a police sharpshooter (not sniper, do not even get me started on why they should not be called snipers) occur at less than 75 yards, yes that is right. Have we not learned anything about this from Iraq.

3rd Man August 28, 2008

sorry for typo.
308 would be good if your one of those…..

streakr August 28, 2008

t

I agree bigger is better for stopping power. But bigger caliber means more recoil. Keep ng the smaller rounds on target is far easier with the 223.

If I need stopping power the 45-70 Marlin lever (backed with a Ruger No 1 and an 1886 ) with 6 350gn JSPs should work just fine. I also load 405 gn and 505 gn lead with black powder. The 38-55 Marlin carries 8 rounds with a 245gn bullet at 1800 fps.

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oneman August 29, 2008

Accurate lethal/wounding shot to center mass with .223/5.56, displace, wait for his buddies to pick him up and start whole process again. If there are too many in the group leave them to fix the wounded and make as quiet an exit as possible. Find another position and pick someone off again.

3rd Man August 30, 2008

roger that oneman.

Kyro October 30, 2008

AK’s aren’t inaccurate by design. Their sights kind of suck, but the rifles themselves are actually not bad considering cartridge being used and length of barrel.

If you got good, brass-cased ammo (like that Portuguese that was floating around at Knob Creek a few years back), and put a decent sight on the AK, you’d be surprised at how well a good SOVIET BLOC AK will group.

I was able to put a coconut-sized group on paper @ 200m with a Romanian GP-75/AKM rebuild…stock everything except the 922r parts. Used Port ammo–brass cased. Good stuff.

Plus the weapon was barely (if at all) shot before it hit the shores of the U.S., so the bore was basically new and not shot out like most battlefield pickup AKs with over 100k rounds through them.

Factory Fresh AK’s are about as accurate as they need to be. If you can’t hit your target with a decent one you need more practice.

I’m not saying they’re GREAT at accuracy, but “average” for their 16″ bbl is definitely pertinent.

Rex Kramer December 22, 2008

My favorite general purpose, do everything really well rifle is the 7.62mm x 51 M14.

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