Presenting!
Ranger Man’s Top Ten BEST Guns for TEOTWAWKI
NUMBER TEN - The Mighty Barrett .50 BMG
LOL! Okay, okay, I kicked this list off with the Barrett just because. I don’t own one and I wouldn’t buy one, but I’ll tell you what, if SHTF, and you have one, you’re on my side.
The sticker price ($3,000-$12,000) on one of these monsters is enough to take anyone’s breath away, but witnessing the colossal *POW* that this bad bitch delivers waaaay down range will also take your breath away. Nothing on the civilian market can deliver anything close to the *smack* of the Barrett. Consequently, there’s a growing movement in different states (mainly New York, Massachusetts, Hawaii and Illinois) to remove the .50 BMG rifle from the civilian market altogether. California banned it in 2004. So, if you have more money than you know what to do with, this could be a great investment. Buy a few and then sell them after they’re banned nationwide for 4 times what you paid for them. 
The cartridge selection for these rifles is disturbing to say the least. They come in incendiary, armor-piercing, armor-piercing/incendiary, tracer, and armor-piercing/incendiary/tracer all-in-one. A .50 BMG sniper rifle was used by a Canadian solder in Afghanistan in 2002 to pull off the longest-range, confirmed sniper kill in history when he delivered the insane ball of lead to a Taliban insurgent 1.5 miles away.
YIKES!
Advantages: it’ll make anyone go “. . . . . . wow;” it’ll penetrate light armor with NO problem; people will open the door for you when they see you carrying it; you can disable equipment and engine blocks from over a mile away; Made in the U.S.A.
Disadvantages: price, size, weight and recoil (ouch!); very limited availability of the high-end, military grade ammunition you’d need to fully realize this rifle’s capacity
NUMBER NINE - SKS Rifle
For what you’d spend on one Barrett .50 BMG you could buy a truckload of these things. I’m not a big fan of them. A friend of mine has (maybe had) a Russian SKS and the thing would sometimes fire two rounds with one trigger pull. This may sound cool, but neither of us thought it was. They’re cheap for a reason.
Advantage: they’re cheap
Disadvantage: they’re cheap
NUMBER EIGHT - Bolt-Action .308
Here it is. You need a sniper set up - period, and there’s a reason the .308 is the most widely used sniper round, it delivers - consistently. It may not have the more flat trajectory of a .270 or the extra wallup in a 30-06, but it delivers, has moderate recoil, and offers a more common caliber with a wider selection of ammunition.
Of course, the flip side of having a sniper set up is that it’s only worthwhile if you actually spend A LOT of time (and money) learning how to use it effectively at long distances. Chances are, for anyone not in Navy Seal sniper school, they’re not going to. However, the rifle can still get plenty of use hunting large game. The 180 grain .308 cartridge is my top recommendation for large game. It hits hard.
Advantages: common caliber, highly accurate
Disadvantage: no rapid fire feature
NUMBER SEVEN - Springfield M1A
What’s better than a bolt-action .308 WTSHTF? A semi-automatic .308. If you’re 3 weeks into TEOTWAWKI, holed up in your house with stacks of books around your picture window to serve as makeshift “sandbags,” you’ll want the M1A standing nearby. Gotta send a message to The Golden Horde hanging out by your mailbox? The M1A will do it.
Advantages: common caliber, stock one round for your bolt-action AND your semi-auto; Made in the U.S.A.
Disadvantages: $1,300 and up typically for a new one; heavy if carrying long distances
NUMBER SIX - 1911 .45 ACP Handgun
Ah yes, a handgun enters the scene. You have to have a handgun, and the 1911 .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) is a beauty. Let’s say it appears TEOTWAWKI is on the verge of happening and people are panicking. They’re out in force to empty the local grocery store’s shelves, and you’re heading into town as well to get whatever you can. This is the stage at which you’re not going to head out with rifles wrapped around your torso unless you’re begging for trouble - HOWEVER - you’re not going unarmed either. Shit could break out in the cooler isle as 28 different dads battle over the last gallon of milk and suddenly one them pulls a piece. You need to be ready without letting people know you’re ready. Additionally, you need a piece for your SHTF “go bag” and the .45 contains a whole lotta lead.
Advantages: conceal and carry; whole lotta lead; common caliber
Disadvantages: limited magazine capacity (typically 8 + 1 in the pipe); $800 and up for a good one
NUMBER FIVE - Remington 870 12 Gauge Pump-Action Shotgun
*shhhick-shickt*
Let’s hear that again.
*shhhick-shickt*
The sound is undeniable. You hear that and you instantly know what it means, “You wanna roll with me?” The only reasonable response is, “errrr . . . . nah, I’ll move along.”
You can get a shotgun that’ll take a bigger shell, but you don’t need it. The 12 gauge is exceptionally common and it’ll take a variety of shells: birdshot for game hunting survival purposes; double-ought buck for pushing intruders not only down, but back out the window they came in through; and slugs for anything else.
Want to mount that shotgun to your bed frame (lol)? Check out one of my previous posts on “The Backup” here.
Advantages: common caliber; many accessories available for this model (pistol grips, tube extensions, etc.); obscene knock-down power
Disadvantages: none come to mind
NUMBER FOUR - AK-47
When I took the “What Combat Weaponry are You?” test over on my MySpace page it churned out the AK-47. It’s not my number one choice, but it’s an excellent choice nevertheless. It’s durable, designed to be thrown into a mud hole for a month when it can be dug out and immediately used without cleaning. That might be an exaggeration, but not by much. It also delivers a beefy round for a standard issue assault rifle. If you’re outside the United States, there’s likely readily available parts and ammunition.
Advantages: banana clips, baby; jungled clipped banana clips, baby
Disadvantages: lacks the accuracy found in other assault rifles; made in China, or Russia, or Yugoslavia - you get the idea
NUMBER THREE - Compact 9mm Handgun
What’s a more common caliber than the .45 ACP? The 9mm. Unfortunately, it’s the most common handgun caliber in the United States used against police officers. Thugs love it. Love the 9mm, but don’t be a thug.
Advantages: cheaper to shoot than the .45 (and thus practice with); high capacity magazines; easier to conceal and carry
Disadvantage: less lead
NUMBER TWO - Ruger 10/22 Rifle
I can hear it now, “What!?” That’s right, the .22 rifle. It’s ALL about survivalism. Look, when TEOTWAWKI hits you’re going to want a rifle like the Ruger 10/22 for put some sort of meat on your dinner plate. Squirrels, gophers or the neighbors’ cats, the 10/22 is quiet, effective, and you can shoot all damn day for what it’d cost you to buy a 6-pack of PBR.
Additionally, a little recognized fact, Chechen rebels successfully used .22 rifles for sniping purposes against Russian troops in urban settings. The urban setting consisted of narrow streets and close buildings allowing these “snipers” to get exceptionally close to their targets. They strapped soda bottle silencers on them to further the effectiveness. I don’t care what you say about the .22lr, take one in the neck and you’ll think differently.
Advantages: already stated - go buy one
Disadvantages: none whatsoever
AND now . . . . . . .
Ranger Man’s NUMBER ONE BEST Rifle for TEOTWAWKI
*drum roll*
The Mighty AR-15!
*applause*
*cheering*
This should really come as no surprise. My only guess as to why so many survival writers don’t list the “Black Rifle” as their top choice is because they want to set themselves apart from the pack. Like in politics, when you’re the man on top, you can expect attacks. There are very solid reasons for the AR-15’s extreme popularity and cult-like following. There are very solid reasons why its the #1 choice of the U.S. military and para-military groups (”AR-15″ to include all variations). It’s the best - period.
Explaining in great detail why I believe the AR-15 is the single best choice for survivalists goes beyond the scope of this post. I will detail it in the future, however. In the meantime, basically:
Advantages: very common caliber; fast bullet with flat trajectory; highly adaptable platform that allows the user to meet mission specific needs; extensive options readily available; they’re everywhere (meaning so are parts); wide variety of available rounds from 55 grain to 75 grain, tracer rounds, steel penetrator tips, etc.; very, very light recoil; Made in the U.S.A., and in the case of Bushmaster, Made in Maine
Disadvantages: smaller caliber than what’s found in other battle rifles; many moving parts; rather annoying to clean compared to other rifles; the gas system often comes under criticism for throwing the “gunk” back into the chamber (some call this “shitting where it eats”), though this problem has been remedied in some newer models (at a higher cost)
- Ranger Man
18 responses so far ↓
1 striker // Dec 16, 2007 at 7:17 pm
http://www.dumpalink.com/videos/The_m16_versus_the_ak47-e1f4.html
2 Phil // Dec 16, 2007 at 8:07 pm
I have to agree with your 10/22 assessment. It doesn’t have the knock down power or range of a .223 or 7.62×39, but a well placed shot is devastating.
I routinely butcher my own meat and I have dropped a 1000lb steer with one shot from my Ruger 10/22 as far out as 30 feet.
Also it can be equipped with large cap mags to “fill the air with lead” if need be. I also have a tricked out sks - synthetic folding stock, modified to take detachable mags etc and I just love the thing.
In the event we need to defend ourselves, I plan to hand my wife the 10/22 and wield the sks myself. I also have a .45 for a sidearm.
Love the site, very interesting and informative!
3 Daniel W. // Dec 16, 2007 at 9:33 pm
Enjoyable read, though for the record the term ‘banana clips’ drives many gun enthusiasts ‘nuts’
My top ten would read very differently but I can appreciate your points.
I would put the SKS and AK at top if I made such a list. Now bear in mind, I’m not a person who ONLY owns an SKS or AK and therefore things THAT is the best - I own or have owned multiples of the following: MAS/MLE, Mausers, Enfields, Mosin Nagants, various .22 bolt & semi-autos, SKS, AK, FAL, AR-15, Remington 870 shotgun, etc.
While other rifles will cover accuracy at a distance better than the SKS or AK’s 7.62×39 round, the reliability, ruggedness, ballistics and accuracy within it’s designed use (100-200 yards) really makes it a great choice.
The SKS is very rugged, and being made in Russia, China and such places is NOT an indicator of poor quality - just the opposite. These things are rock solid if left in their original form. Ammo is plentiful and not as pricey as .223 or .308, and on stripper clips can be carried in quantity and loaded quickly.
I have owned and shot many SKS & AK rifles and fully trust them to function even when things are down & dirty and time to stop & clean them isn’t available.
The same can’t be said for the AR-15. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve kept shooting my SKS at the range while the guy next to me fought to keep his AR from jamming. It’s a different ballgame in the military where you have a line of supply & backup - but if you were out in the field with limited cleaning supplies (or none) or no time to stop and do maintenance, it wouldn’t be a good thing to have to club the zombies with your AR.
I LOVE the FAL in .308, but due to weight of the rifle AND it’s ammo I’d probably leave it home unless there were a specialized need.
.22 bolt or even Ruger 10-22? Great choice. For the proposed ITSHTF (IF the SHTF) were to occur, I would guess that little if any of it would be spent fighting zombie hordes or foreign invaders. But you WOULD probably spend substantial time hunting for food, and something like a 10-22 is perfect for that.
In certain scenarios an accurate, long range sniper .308 would be invaluable! However, if you were on foot evacuating with a single firearm or out in the field, how would would that single shot rifle with delicate expensive scope hold up? Could you really hump it and go through some hard hits without it breaking or having to re-zero it? If it did break, what then?
A good pistol is a great idea - be it 9mm, .40, 357SIG, .45 or any other caliber.
Anyway, good blog.
4 Arty // Dec 17, 2007 at 1:03 am
AR-15.
Nice.
Now, can you tell me how I can own one in California?
5 Raffi // Dec 19, 2007 at 10:42 am
I like this list. I have many of these and have subed a few of the others. Someday a .50 will fall into my lap but until then I’ll make due with my .300 winmag for the long range stuff. Get what you can and pratice as much as you can. old school vet.
6 ryan // Dec 21, 2007 at 4:29 am
The .50 cal is awesome if you have a huge budget and an already full gun safe. I think the overall top 9 is right on, order is somewhat open to personal opinions. I have a hard time thinking a compact 9mm is more useful (and thus higher on the list) then a full sized .45 1911. I disagree that it takes 800 bucks to get a good one. I own a Springfield Mil spec (535 dollars last summer) and it has never jammed. Maybe a few folks can outshoot that gun but most can’t. Its big advantage of the 9 is itscompactness and in a SHTF type situation open carry would rapidly become the norm. If you really want to shoot alot get a .22 pistol to go with the 10/22.
I think the scoped rifle is important even if you are not a truely phenomenal shot (trained military sniper/ Camp Murry competitor etc). Almost anyone is going to shoot more accurately at longer distances with a scoped bolt gun then an assault/battle rifle. Better optics and a more stable reciever.
I know the Ar-15 being number one on this has brought the survival blogosphere into a stir. I think we all need to take things with a grain of salt and avoid personal attacks. A diehard .308 battle rifle type survivalist has much more in common with a ,303 enfield carrying survivalist then he does with 95% of the population, same goes with a 1911 .45 type guy with a .9mm or .357 magnum character. Lets read eachothers stuff and have lively debates but avoid personal attacks and try to learn from each other. I think we all probably know atleast one thing that the next guy doesn’t and visa versa.
merry christmas
7 Dragon // Feb 9, 2008 at 1:57 am
My carry weapon at camp is the …Ready…Amd 64 side folder with the short mag.
in my neck of the woods ak ammo is plentiful and cheap.
Years back I picked up a forged receiver SKS for 75 bucks.
and I can shoot it as far as my Mauser 98.
but my favorite and first gun was a enfield jungle carbine in 303.
8 ouchstop // Feb 15, 2008 at 11:07 pm
I like your blog and your top ten. Although most or all of us have variations of the top ten, I enjoy reading someone elses view point. For my two cents, the Ruger 10/22 is indespensible and seriously under rated, the Remington 870 is a must. A couple of other options, the Ruger mini 14 is a compromise between the AK 47 and the AR 15. Here in Missouri a Marlin or Winchester 30-30 is considered a definite top tenner. One last, the Smith & Wesson 38 special is the Ak47 of handguns. You can’t break it, it won’t jam, you can bury it in the mud, pull it out months later and fire the rounds in it, and if you hand it to your daughter all she has to know is point it and squeeze the trigger.
Regards
ouch
9 Flintlock // Mar 6, 2008 at 6:12 pm
A precision .22 is a must–I love my 10/22 dearly, BUT my 77/22 with scope is a LOT more accurate. It is also fairly quiet with Remington Subsonic Hollowpoints and will use the same magazine.
10 Anonymous // Mar 18, 2008 at 3:43 am
One superb caliber overlooked here is the .17HMR. Highly accurate with a rated zero drop out to 100 yards. With a decent scope you can easily hit the same hole at 50 yards. It does well in windy conditions and is deadly for varmint hunting. I carries a pretty good wallop compared to the 22. Although ammo does cost, around $12 per 50 rounds, it is well worth it. The rifle itself will set you back $250-$300 for a quality bolt action. Savage Arms with an accu-trigger is a good choice. It may not be high capacity (7+1) but who needs that with such accuracy.
11 wally // Mar 27, 2008 at 10:32 pm
OORAH! for the old trusty 22!!!! one of the
best all around plinker rifles you can get.
every aresnal should have one, if you don’t
your just not thinking straight…
keep yourpower dry man…
wally
12 Dale // Apr 11, 2008 at 7:58 am
Great site! Like most of your choices. My personal armory includes; AR-15/M-4 clone, Mossberg 500 12ga with riot barrel, Springfield XD-.45 semiauto pistol, S&W 686 .357 Revolver, Walther P-22 .22LR semiauto pistol, and a Mossberg Plinkster .22 semiauto riflle. I’m still looking for a bolt action .308 or .270 with scope for reaching out to touch someone. Also considering picking up 2 or 3 inexpensive SKS’s for ITSHTF since most in my influence group have their heads in the sand but will be knocking on my door for some firepower when the time comes. Keep your head down!
13 CK // Apr 18, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Love the site Rangerman!!!!
I own a SOCOM 1 and love it - semi auto .308 with 20 round mags!!!! Also have a G23 side piece and the venerable Remington 870 pump with mag extension!!! I bought a Norinco built SKS for 90 bucks way back in the early 90’s, made it US compliant and put it in a Tapco adjustable stock with the folding bi-pod and 30 round mags…..I like it very much too. Again, really enjoy your site and the information herein! Keep up the good work!
Rangers lead the way!
14 California Legal AR // Apr 22, 2008 at 2:00 am
Arty or anyone else in California. Visit www.calguns.net to learn more info about owning a california legal ar. Trust me you won’t regret it.
15 R-Man // Jun 28, 2008 at 1:15 am
I fashion myself as something of a survivalist. I own most of the guns on your list, but not all.
Now that 2008 has resulted in an extraordinary price hike in ammunition costs, I have to say that the plinker is stuck with .22 LR and 7.62 X 39 mm. That makes my AKM and SKS all that much more desirable.
Like you, I’m sure, I have a stock of ammo: .223 Wolf and Lake City, 7.62 NATO Lake City, 30-06 corrosive 1954 Korean, 7.62 X 39 mm Wolf Classic and Black Box, .45 cal. White Box and Remington Golden Sabers, 9 mm FMJ. In quantity.
So the best SHTF gun(s) fire the ammo you have in stock with the gun(s) you have in stock. Multiple guns mean you can arm your friends and neighbors.
Number 10: Remington 742 Woodmaster.
This rifle has a four round magazine firing 30-06 with a 9x scope. This is the sniper rifle for the average survivalist. Hits close groups at 100 yards, which is the longest range that my gun club has.
Advantages: Knock down power that kills anything.
Disadvantages: Ammo is very pricey. The old surplus Korean stuff requires careful inspection and the barrel must be meticulously cleaned after use. A BAR is a better rifle, but not much.
Number 9: .223 Remington Bushmaster M17S Bullpup rifle.
Uses the ubiquitous .223 Remington round. Has a 16” barrel in a short, compact system. Great for home invaders. Very rare rifle. Much preferred is the S-2000 or Steyr AUG. I don’t own those rifles. I like the S-2000 over the other bullpups. If I owned it, the S-2000 rifle would take a higher score.
Advantages: short length for home defense.
Disadvantages: Jams. When at the range one must check the action and ejection port after every round fired.
Number 8: Yugo SKS
I’ve read that the Russian SKS is of better quality with a SS barrel. However, I only own a Yugo with the muzzle break and bayonet ($400).
Great blond furniture and looks great. I mean it looks great. Beautiful rifle firing the 7.62 X 39 mm AK-47 round. This is my new range rifle due to the high cost of ammo. Described in “Boston’s Gun Bible” as a “great trunk rifle.” ‘Nuff said
Advantages: Plenty of cheap ammunition on 10-round stripper clips.
Disadvantages: 5” MOA. Poor site with Russian-only optical improvements.
Number 7: AKM (semi-automatic AK-47)
Mine is a stamped receiver AKM. It’s a toss-up between this 16” bbl AK and the Yugo SKS with a 20” bbl. I give the nod to the AKM because there are so many adherents on the web. Heaven forbid I select the beautiful Yugo SKS over the butt ugly AKM black rifle.
The edge is really due to the 30-round mag on the AKM, which are cheap and plentiful. I’ve got a ton of them.
Advantages: Plenty of cheap ammo in cheap 30-round mags. Scary looking with a scary sounding bolt slide.
Disadvantages: Accurate as an Iraqi.
Number 6: Glock 30 double stack .45 cal. Compact pistol
This is one of two .45’s that I carry. It has a short bbl, but the Glock is also listed in “Boston’s Gun Bible” as a preferred hand gun. The Glock is the simplest gun to strip and clean and fire. Once you’ve owned a Glock, you will buy more. I’ve got three and I’m looking for an excuse to buy more.
Advantages: It’s a Glock in .45. I may not have ever shot somebody with a Remington Golden Saber .45, but if I do, they are going down. Standard square white site is the best I’ve seen. Good for carry. G21 mags fit. The standard mag is 10-round. After market mags have the pinkie grip.
Disadvantages: Short barrel.
Number 5: Glock 17-L 9 mm long bbl match gun
This is the only gun I have ever hit bull with the first shot. The long bbl is a great advantage when distance is necessary. Mine is second gen, so it has no Picatiny Rail. But who cares? It fits in a standard G17 holster, which leaves a lot of options for carry, including shoulder rig.
Advantages: Very accurate pistol.
Disadvantages: 9 mm is a pussy round.
Number 4: Glock 21 .45 cal. Full-sized pistol (1911 substitute)
Tough to carry concealed because of its size, but rugged as hell. With Trijicon night sites this is the ultimate home defense pistol. Oil? Optional. It’s the AK-47 of the handgun world. Simplicity of design makes the G21 the big pistol of choice. I’ve got the Fobus paddle holster and Blackwater belt holster with trigger finger release. It fits in any tactical holster. This hand gun may not be right for Zombies; too big, too loud, too much. But it is the one hand gun I would most want to be carrying if the shit hits the fan.
Advantages: Long bbl, plentiful high caliber round, good site picture, stopping power.
Disadvantages: The Glock Model 21? No. None. Get one.
Number 3: ????????????
This was a tough one. I’m down to my favorite and secondary. If you have to have a favorite and a backup, non-hand gun, what would you leave at home? SHTF is a very non-specific situation.
I’m down to three weapons; the AR-15 , the FN FAL .308 metric and the FN Police Shotgun 12 GA. Shit.
I have to make the Fabrique National FAL the number three gun. I love the thing ($650). It’s reliable and fires a big caliber. The .308, 7.62 X 51 mm NATO is one hell of a round, but it’s heavy. There is no Blackhawk or Blackwater assault vest made for the .308. Sorry, too bad. You have to get a suspension harness and clip-on ammo pouches to construct a half-assed ammo/assault vest for a .308 rifle.
Why FAL over the Springfield Arms M1A or the Rock River Arms LAR-8? Because I own an FN FAL and I don’t own a notoriously expensive M1A or reasonably priced RRA LAR-8 in 20” bbl. (bet which one I buy next?)
I liked the FAL in metric pattern over the L1A1 or L1A2 inch pattern. I scoped the FAL and it is very accurate. It’s a nine pound rifle like the M1A and LAR-8.
Based on my criteria, neither the M1A or the L1A2 or the LAR-8/AR-10 would have placed better on the list. The .308 round is going for $1.00 minimum each these days (see 7.62 X 39 at $0.19 per round).
Sorry, but the .308 is a waste for Zombies. It’s also a waste for AQI unless you’re supplied by the US Army, Marines or SpecOps.
Advantages: Big caliber, accurate, pick ‘um FAL, M1A, LAR-8.
Disadvantages: The ammo has become too expensive and it’s too heavy to carry in quantity. I have stores of Lake City, but the rifles have become too expensive also. The Springfield Arms is outrageous at $1,300 to $1,850 plus tax. The RRA LAR-8 is not too bad at $1,200, but fuck… I bought my Remington 742 for $350 with a scope and sling. It may not have a high-cap mag, but it will remove your head from your shoulders and drop any game in North America with one shot (other than a Grizzly and maybe a bull moose.)
Number 2: FN 12 GA Police Shotgun
Is there someone with a survivalist mentality that doesn’t own a 12 GA shotgun? A Remington 870 or some other pump-action? No. The answer is no. We all own a 12 gauge. Mine is tricked out with a reflex holograph “scope” and flashlights. It looks ridiculous, but I can strip it down to stock in less than a minute.
With a pistol grip and a long cylinder magazine, this bad boy can take out the worst looter in the worst way. I’ve got a stack of 00 buckshot to do the job. This could, would be the number one gun but for one reason; it doesn’t hold enough rounds. Plus, it kicks like a mule.
The beauty about a 12 GA shotgun is it doesn’t take much maintenance. Drag a bore snake through the bbl and you’re good to go. The fire power of a 12 GA is unsurpassable. Aim and shoot.
Advantages: Buy ammo at Wally World. Right off the shelf for bird shot. Top notch weapon for $650. Probably the most deadly for the uninitiated rifleman.
Disadvantages: Not for pussies or women or little kids. The thing is a cannon, so arm yourself appropriately.
Number One: You know. The M16/AR-15 .223 Remington 5.56 X 45 mm
Mine is a Double Star AR-15 semi-automatic .223 rifle ($1,000). It has only jammed twice, both due to black followers. Similar problem with FAL. Bad mags make for bad rifles. My Remington 742 Woodmaster also had a “failure to feed, failure to fire” due to bad extraction.
With decent ammo and a good green follower magazine the AR-15 is a very reliable rifle. What does it take to kill a hundred Zombies? Marksmanship, ammo, carried ammo. Marksmanship is my problem, ammo is also my problem, but carried ammo is Blackhawk’s problem. And Blackwater’s. They sell the vests that allow me to carry 12 30-round magazines. The ballistics of the .223 are fine. The round will generally fragment and “puff” after it hits. A tumbling .223 round will kill anyone. It may not kill a hopped-up AQI with the first round, but that’s just because a hopped-up AQI drug addict doesn’t know he’s been shot.
Mine has a carry handle 4X scope. The rifle has a flat top weaver rail, so I could make it much more accurate by mounting the scope on rings. Doesn’t matter much, it hits fine at 100 yards. Good enough for Zombies and al Qaida in the neighborhood.
Advantages: Light weight at 7 pounds. Can carry 400 rounds of ammo in readily available assault vest. Lots of optic options available. Bad ass Black Rifle.
Disadvantages: Shitty magazines on-line. Price of ammo has gone up to $.50 per round.
16 SurvivalTopics.com // Jun 28, 2008 at 10:18 am
Something in the following:
.22LR, 12 gauge, then a 30-30 or 308 or 30-06
IMHO
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18 Weltregierung. // Jul 15, 2008 at 4:17 am
An AK47 for oneself, 3 SKS to arm Friends when needed - and a Ruger 10/22 plus 2 other cheapo .22 weapons.
my 02$.
- Cheersregierung.
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