Felons Want Guns for Home Defense

The Supreme Court’s ruling on the D.C. gun ban has begun additional challenges to gun laws. Now enter . . . the felons! Fresh off the press, read (from this source):

Twice convicted of felonies, James Francis Barton Jr. faces charges of violating a federal law barring felons from owning guns after police found seven pistols, three shotguns and five rifles at his home south of Pittsburgh.

As a defense, Barton and several other defendants in federal gun cases argue that last month’s Supreme Court ruling allows them to keep loaded handguns at home for self-defense.

“Felons, such as Barton, have the need and the right to protect themselves and their families by keeping firearms in their home,” says David Chontos, Barton’s court-appointed lawyer.

Hmmmm, this could be an interesting challenge. The court ruled individuals have a right to keep firearms in their homes for self-defense. Are felons an exception? Quite logically, they could be an exception, because they’ve already proven to society that they can’t be trusted, but perhaps the courts will have to define, or set some parameters around, exactly what crimes constitute justification to restrict gun ownership. Maybe it’s just conviction of a felony, maybe it depends on the felony.

No matter the outcome of this case, there will be more challenges to gun laws coming down the line. After all, it didn’t take long for people to challenge Chicago’s handgun ban after the court’s ruling. I wouldn’t start saving for a machine gun, however. Ain’t gonna happen, the 1934 law restricting civilian use of machine guns won’t get overturned. I also fully suspect a Clinton-style ban on “assault weapons” will also be upheld by the court. But hey, what do I know? Maybe the court WOULD rule that an individual has a right to keep an AK-47 in his/her home . . . for self-defense. But why a semi-automatic AK-47, and not a full-auto? See, the court will have to use its best judgment, and I have a feeling they’d back a ban assault weapons whether they’re semi-automatic or fully automatic. But hey, if Obama becomes President then we’ll all see. You KNOW this guy doesn’t want you to own anything beyond a bolt-action rifle.


My refrigerator died this morning, and I’m very annoyed. It’s a General Electric, less than a year old. :-S More than just stop keeping items cool, it actually HEATED the fridge side (freezer side still works). It had just been filled with gallons of milk, yogurt, veggies, and I still had a few beers left in it, though unlike milk I can probably still salvage them. Yep, SHTF life without a fridge would be rough, particularly with kids.

– Ranger Man

BTW: China has essentially begun shutting down Beijing to clear the air for the Olympics. What we’ll see when the Olympics are aired is a picturesque, clean, sexy China. Oh yes, party people, China has been going nuts on projects and improvements since the 2008 location was announced. They want to present a real special image of China to the rest of the world. Everyone will watch the Olympics and think, “China looks so great.” Yeah . . . sure . . . lets go where the television cameras won’t go. 3/4’s of all the water flowing through China’s urban centers is unsuitable for drinking or fishing. But hey, humans have no impact on the environment, right? Global warming is a myth.

lol – ;-)

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I gotta call a refrigerator repair man to get the unit fired back up again. Gotta burn some more fossil fuels to keep that beer cold, or maybe I should use more natural, eco-friendly cooling techniques.


11 comments… add one
  • guiding_guardian July 20, 2008, 7:40 am

    RM, TY for all the “STUFF”, it has helped change my life, not being able to defend ones-self and family to the utmost is skeary, I’d like to see them take each case as it is, a bad check writer versus a stick-up artist with the perchant for GUNZ could be considered ans as we all have seen, the real bad guyz can get a gun whenever… off on another note, solar power, man I just want soemthing to run my water pump and the simple stuff on market is 8 grand…any H E L P!!!! G_G

  • SurvivalTopics.com July 20, 2008, 7:50 am

    I always say that most of us could be convicted felons if only we had been caught. Think about it – go through your past and consider all the not-so-bright things you have done and what the consequences could have been had only the circumstanced been a little different.

    In addition to that, just what is a felony? Soon, I suspect, a felony will be speaking out against the government in any way – homeland security, you know.

    What I am saying is not all felonies are created equal. And there is also the time factor: deeds done when you are 19 years old – are you the same person at 6o? there is a good chance you are not.

  • April July 20, 2008, 10:48 am

    Yeah I don’t necessarily think people convicted of “serious” felonies (violent person-on-person crimes) should be allowed to have guns without restriction. I mean, a tax-evasion felony is different than an aggravated assault felony—- and like the person above said, there should be a time limit when it rolls off your record.

    Being new to the gun culture (not that I’m in it, but I am interested in it), I am confused by gun laws since basically anyone who wants a gun can buy it from someone else, right? I mean, you don’t need a background check or permit if you buy something off the so-called black market. So does it really matter what the laws are b/c people who want guns are going to find out a way to get them anyway? See, I told you I was new.

  • Solo Survivalist July 20, 2008, 10:58 am

    I think if you can’t be trusted with a gun, you shouldn’t have been let out of jail.

    RE: the fridge, I’ve been having the same problem – fridge stops cooling, but freezer runs fine. It usually occurs after a few hour power outage. In my case, it’s been the evaporator freezing solid. After the repair man came out the first time, the solution has been to thaw it out manually. Hope it’s a cheap repair for you!

  • Jennersen July 20, 2008, 11:19 am

    G_G, if we functioned under the common law instead of statuary law, as we do now, it would be a case by case system. Instead legislators keep making statute after statute to codify the law, which is not a case by case system.

    Rangerman, they do not make them like they used to! I should have kept my grandmother’s old fridge as it has been chugging along since the 60s. The new one we have around here as puttered out a few times also, and the same applies to the dishwasher! *shakes head*

  • central alabama July 20, 2008, 1:22 pm

    Here in alabama if you have the police called on a domestic situation they will take you in custudy and nine times out of ten convict you of domestic violence,and remove your rights to possess firearms.and thats nomatter what the incident may have entailed could have just been a verbal disagreement.but i think it carries over to all states on your gun rights so if you get caught with a gun after that its a felony.Ithink each case should be looked at and decided on its own merrit

  • Anonymous July 20, 2008, 5:38 pm

    It sure goes against ‘Shall NOT be infringed’ to restrict guns. If people are going to do bad things, then send them to court and give them their day, but otherwise ANYONE should be able to have a firearm. BTW 1898 and before arms are exempt as relics. There are some good choices in that range too.

    Skip in Kansas City

  • Rushman July 20, 2008, 5:51 pm

    April, Your gun laws due vary state to state but one thing aplies nation wide. You can not sell a gun across state lines without transfering through a FFL holder. If you do and get caught the men in black may come get you. It’s best to not upset the ATF they are not the people to F with. Buying a gun from a person comes at a risk. If that gun was used in a crime and is traced to you because you used it to protect yourself you may be charged. Buying from a FFL proves when you bought the gun. I know I will get a lot of flack for saying what I did. But it is better then paying for someone elses crime. If you do chose to buy from a person make sure you get their info. Anyone on the up and up won’t mind and more then likely ask you for yours. I also very much agree with what felones should be allowed to own a gun. Here in MO. it is automatic 5 years in prison if a felone is caught.

  • tweell July 20, 2008, 6:32 pm

    The federal law regarding felons and firearms is of the same vintage as the Machineguns law, and is less likely to get changed. Felons can regain their legal firearms privileges if they are pardoned or successfully petition the ATF (not quite impossible), otherwise, too bad.
    And here’s a Glowbull Warmening link:

  • irishdutchuncle July 22, 2008, 3:22 am

    blogging is currently only a misdomeanor, however that loophole is sure to be closed soon. they will convict us all of something eventually. littering, smoking or jaywalking will result in sumary execution, they’ll probably only give you twenty years for blogging.

  • bulgari bague imitation January 2, 2018, 10:56 pm

    I’m with Father of 2. You are essentially paying for the privilege of working if the cost of childcare is greater than one of the spouse’s incomes. A family may decide that it is worth it to maintain contacts, etc. or that spouse does not want to stay home. But the financial calculations should still be taken into consideration.
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