How Bad Could It Get–For Real?

Ranger Man wrote a post awhile back about the different types of preppers/survivalists.  If you haven’t read it yet it’s worth a couple of minutes to check out the definitions, which will allow you to figure out where you stand in the prepper hierarchy.

I like the definitions because they point out to some degree or other what we as preppers believe will happen some day.  All of us agree that at some point there will be a SHTF situation that will force us to rely on ourselves for some period of time thus justifying the time, energy, and money we’ve put into our preparations.  Some of us have already been in those situations.

But what the definitions lack is feeling. I feel that sooner rather than later there is going to be some kind of economic issue that will cause me to feel justified for all the time I’ve put into worrying and getting my house ready for just such an event.  I read the news every day and although the mainstream media would have you think otherwise things just aren’t looking all that rosy.

The truth is that anything can happen.  All I have to do is point the finger at Japan and think, “Man, these people were just minding their own business, maybe worrying about the economy or what they were going to have for dinner, and bam.  Earthquake.  Tsunami.  Radioactive leaks.  Roaming power outages.”  How in the world could someone be totally ready for such a terrible chain of events?  Answer:  if you lived there on the coast you couldn’t.  Probably the best thing you could have had on hand is a bug-out bag and a BOV ready to get you away from the wave.  Their lives were changed forever by this series of disasters.

Now here’s the thing – I’ve talked to many people here in the states who seem to think nothing like that could ever happen here.  Their attitude is that even if there were some big disaster it would probably be in some other part of the country, so why get all worked up over it?  That’s wishful thinking and when the metaphorical tidal wave comes rolling in I’m going to be ready.  They’re not.

Currency comes and goes

How bad could it get?  Look at where you live and figure out the five most likely disasters that might happen.  Job loss.  Earthquake.  Flood.  Wild fire. If there was an economic disaster could there be food riots where you live?

What?  The economy could never crash because it’s never happened before?  Wrong.  It happened in Argentina and Weinmar, Germany, Zimbabwe and other places throughout the world in recent times.  What?  We don’t have to worry about that because we’re the biggest empire in the world?  Hmmm, I’ll bet that’s exactly what the Romans thought until their world domination came to an end.    And the USSR looked pretty forbidding from the outside until their economy totally collapsed.

Most of us prepare in such a way that the preps we do make only enhance our lifestyle instead of costing money and detracting from it.  Some of us have hidey holes in the mountains and are hunkering down with rifles and a few close friends waiting for the world to go to hell.  Some of us are in between.  I do know that when I talk to someone who’s not into prepping that I approach the subject carefully, because I don’t want them to think I spend a lot of my time patrolling my booby-trapped property with an illegal fully automatic M-16 waiting to go to war with some unnamed horde.  If I start to get “that look” I back off, smile, and change the subject so that they can see how normal I am.  Right?

I don’t throw stones at those who see a conspiracy in government actions.  I don’t actually believe that FEMA camps are being put up so that Americans can be interred when TSHTF and the Army and National Guard take over, but I can’t actually disprove it either.

Who’s right and who’s wrong?  Only time will tell.

-Jarhead Survivor


What do you think?  I’d like this to be a safe forum for people to express their ideas because I’d like to see what people are thinking out there.  I won’t tolerate any personal attacks from readers on other readers for voicing an opinion.  Please let me know in the comments below.

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  • j.r. guerra in s. tx. May 23, 2011, 8:45 am

    I think economic collapse is definite possiblity. Many people I know are just hanging on by a thread, lulled by 90’s and past decade’s very good economy. Bought into the big house on big lot with his ‘n her new vehicles. An a mortgage, which if not payed can yank the whole works from under them. High gas prices aren’t helping either. Losing a job is enough to do this – they aren’t saving up for a rainy day and if it decides to pour, they are done for. Too many others in same position for quick sales.

    Thats my main worry. Government interference into our every day lives too is a worry of mine also. You don’t think it can happen here – but it is, slowly and methodically.

  • Templar May 23, 2011, 9:17 am

    j.r. is quite correct… the imposition of ever more stringent government (I call it “government creep”) is what is quite literally sneaking up on the American populace. Then an “event” will happen (Black Swan, etc.) and Big Bro will impose still more “emergency” measures …..and most of us won’t even know what hit us. For the average working professional, Jim Rawles’ dictum of “Beans, Bullets & Band-aids” is the way to think. (Remember, just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you !).

  • irishdutchuncle May 23, 2011, 9:24 am

    i don’t want to speculate on just how bad things could get, because i usually underestimate…

  • Odd Questioner May 23, 2011, 9:52 am

    Bit o’ Pedancy:
    The Weimar Republic *was* Germany during the 1920’s and early 1930’s, until Hitler took over. It was also in sorry shape from the start, considering that it was founded at the end of World War One… a war that Germany had just lost. The winning powers (UK, France, etc) were more interested in taking punishment (via war reparations) than in helping the country build its economic infrastructure back up. Contrast that with WWII and the Marshall Plan if you want to see some drastic differences, especially considering that Germany has been an economic powerhouse ever since 1955 or so.

    Also, the USSR’s economic woes were pretty glaring and apparent even during the 1970’s (e.g. the bread lines), and had never really been much of a powerhouse from the start .

    But otherwise, yeah – sometimes you just can’t predict when the SHTF.

    Last night’s tornado in Joplin, MO. also got me to thinking…. I used to drive up there on business a *lot*, so many of the scenes there looked totally familiar once I mentally reconstructed the buildings. But, tangent aside, perhaps an article on how to be a solid prepper in Tornado Alley wouldn’t be a bad idea, no? After all, you may have a fairly solid-built home, but storing all your preps in one may not do you so well if the disaster involves tornadoes, no?

    • Jarhead Survivor May 23, 2011, 11:13 am

      Odd Questioner – you’re absolutely right. I stand corrected. The Weimar Republic was Germany.

      If there’s anybody out there who has first hand experience with surviving a tornado I’d love to hear from you. We don’t get them up here in Maine, so I’m not comfortable writing about something I have no experience with when someone’s life could be at stake.

      Thanks for your comment!

      • russell1200 May 23, 2011, 12:21 pm

        If you have thunderstorms you have tornados: I promise. You just don’t have as many as other places.

        • Jarhead Survivor May 23, 2011, 8:16 pm

          Ok, ya got me there. But they are so rare here that it’s never even entered my mind that my house or work would ever be directly effected by one. It would be like winning the big pot with a royal flush – only not as fun.

          Now if you want to talk about a blizzard or ice storm I’m your man!

          • Mel Saxon May 24, 2011, 2:18 pm

            Whether you are talking about tornados or blizzards, the sad truth is that our homes are not built to withstand an attack by nature, or man for that matter. My 2×4 framed, slab on grade, house is horribly vulnerable to any number of disasters. My aspiration, as a prepper is to build a house that integrates both off-the-grid capability with designed in security/defendability. We Americans have been spoiled by many years of “peace & prosperity”. Looking at houses in Europe and Latin America, I was struck by the fact that they are mostly masonry with wrought iron grills over windows and doors. They won’t blow down or collapse under an overload of snow. They also look like they would be pretty hard to break into. We could all take a lesson here.

      • Odd Questioner May 23, 2011, 6:58 pm

        No worries – it just caught me off-kilter to see it. :)

        It’s been well over a decade since I lived in Tornado Alley, but I would suspect that a good start would be something bunker-like, underground. After that, a lot of other things tend to get altered (bugging out, etc).

      • KC May 23, 2011, 10:32 pm

        Jarhead, look up Mechanicville New York tornado on May 31, 1998. As I recall it was pretty bad. The big problem up north is you don’t get them often and when you do people get stupid. Its like when it snows down here in the south and people don’t know how or what to do. I know, I lived in both and have seen how people reacted.

        As always a great read!

  • Wolfgang May 23, 2011, 9:58 am

    Economic collapse still seems like a strong possibility. Peak oil is not just a theory anymore, and anyone can do that math (production decreases while demand continues to increase, combined with the lack of any viable alternatives to date and the fact that just about everything that supports the modern economy is dependent on fossil fuels).

    But, it hardly matters which disaster comes around, since it is likely that a sizable fraction of the world population will encounter at least one during their lifetime. I’m sure that there are a lot of people who live in New Orleans (or who have been displaced from there) who are a more likely to stockpile food and other essentials. People who lived through the Great Depression had a habit of stockpiling items, as well. Preparation would seem to be a useful habit no matter where you are.

    • Odd Questioner May 23, 2011, 10:30 am

      The Great Depression was an excellent example of how folks learned the hard way to stockpile. There are more than a few old folks still out there who don’t look like they have much, but can engineer/stretch resources beyond belief.

  • Spook45 May 23, 2011, 10:45 am

    I say it can get much worse and when it does it will very fast. My first Pre-incident indicator is History. What has happedned in the past that is like what is happening now and what was done about it the first time? Then I look at what is happening here and try to compare to what has happened else where in similar circumstances. For instance, Hitler was elected with mass popularity(just Like Obama) he then took over most of Germanys industry(just like Obama) the he took over the Healthcare system(just like Obama) and the banking and well, you get the picture. Economicly, the same thing that is happening here(almost identicly) happened in the Wymar Republic and in Argentina. What transpired there was purely economic and had very little to d owith politics(unlike the combination we have here) and when it went down, it got ugly. Everyone carried a gun and a knife and they used them(they had too) kidnappings of officials and business people were the norm on the daily basis. Throw in some political furver and an attempted regime change or in our case, an attemot to unify us with other countries under the guise of a “world govt” or what ever you choose to call it, and you have a recipe for an all out civil war or worse. I simply urge people to stop aqnd think, apply some rationall, and realize that to be a citizen of the WORLD you will at some point cease to be AMERICAN. You will infact be trading one system for another. The problem I see is that the new system seems to be self appointing, self aggrandizing and self motivated. There is no election, they simply appoint each other(with power proxied to them by we the people) to the positions they want and then dictate to you who and what you will be. Iwas born AMERICAN and I will Stay AMERICAN, and whatever transpires in between will be a matter for the History books…..

    • Spook45 May 23, 2011, 10:48 am

      Correction: with NO power proxied to them by we the people. The only way to avoid and correct the problem is to Elect people like Ron Paul who choose to be trut to and follow the U.S. Cosntitution.

  • mainerinexile May 23, 2011, 10:47 am

    what he said above… either it will collapse of it’s own weight, or civilians will help it collapse. ( has an article today how the indiana and supreme courts have just destroyed the 4th amendment right against unusual search and seizure, and feel that police can make unwarranted “visits” to your home. as ben franklin said, either we all hang together, or most assuredly, we will all hang separately…

  • JohnDoe 1999 May 23, 2011, 11:09 am

    I consider myself a “survivalist” not a “prepper.” My skill set is employing and teaching others to employ both offensive and defensive security measures, in uniform and “blending mode”; it’s what I bring to the table. Also wilderness survival, but I’ll teach people to camouflage and evade, not signal for rescue; I leave more applicable teachings, like securing the water heater in the event of an earthquake, or lighting a signal fire, to PSAs and the discovery channel. I think that most preppers are concerned for local and regional emergencies, where I worry about complete and relatively immediate collapse i.e. Pandemic or a half dozen 10 Kiloton Bombs in U.S. cities. Regarding Gov’t conspiracies, I walk away from anyone who implies combat with U.S. forces; even as a cadet, I took an oath. I think some people are mistaken in thinking that the National Guard wont fire on them as soon as their “squad” tries to offer assistance in “recapturing the local food distribution center.” The NOPD killed civilians after Katrina; running around in Camo with long guns will exacerbate the situation for EVERYONE in a city. If gangs and militias really fought U.S. forces, an Infantry Platoon on Platoon sized group engagement would probably last all of 30 seconds. But if they really did need assistance? I would approach in ACU’s, with hands up, unarmed, and offer the loyal assistance of an irregular squad for Full Spectrum Operations, or at least, as a rifle man in the stack, already equipped and versed in U.S. Infantry tactics, techniques, and procedures.

    • T.R. May 23, 2011, 12:29 pm

      I wouldn’t be so sure about brain dead , machine loyalty . The oath is to your country … not to your government . Its pretty easy to tell a soldier to kill people in another country , but when they are told to do it to their own people …. your going to see severe problems at all levels of command . You can only bull$hit your way through that so many times . Look what happened in the first civil war …..People that swore the same oath made a choice for their families and country , what they believed in the end was right , and chose a side . We are not talking just ( by our standards ) uneducated people , but very intelligent and gifted soldiers . Lee , Jackson , etc. , Desertion was rampant on both sides . Especially when we are talking about a nation that has not won a conflict sense 1945 . ( less than absolute victory is a defeat ) Even Soviet troops decided that enough was enough and refused to move on their own people . You dont think for yourself , you dont belong in any uniform civil or military.. Period ! Sense the revolution , your duty is to the constitution ( your country ) not your leaders . Riots have to be controlled but when it gets beyond that …….. you have to question and think for yourself …. and they will . ” Serve not the evil king “

      • JohnDoe 1999 May 23, 2011, 12:48 pm

        I think you assume too much, my loyalty was to my comrades if criminals and anarchists tried to cause harm to them and society. My oath was to the U.S. constitution. The minute my government fires on unarmed civilians it is no longer legitimate, and I doubt that I will be the only one with such an opinion. Frankly, I’d rather allow some criminals to walk, than sacrifice my civil liberties, and I’d rather let some possible terrorists out, than betray my values. If we lose sight of who we are in the fight to preserve ourselves, what are we fighting for? Out of curiosity, is T.R. “T.Rapier” on Survival Cache?

        • Jarhead Survivor May 23, 2011, 8:19 pm

          We had to do some riot control training down in Gitmo and I can remember thinking that I wouldn’t ever want to be in a position to fire on our own people with tear gas or whatever. I was sure I wouldn’t do it.

          • JohnDoe1999 May 23, 2011, 9:45 pm

            Jarhead, I’m glad that I’m not the only one. I understand the need for order, but not to the extent of violent suppression..

        • Anonymous May 24, 2011, 12:19 am

          thats pretty much what I said is it not ?

        • T.R May 24, 2011, 12:21 am

          Is that not just what I said ?

          • JohnDoe1999 May 24, 2011, 8:08 am

            I guess I’m just agreeing.

          • T.R May 27, 2011, 9:24 pm

            Right on !
            I have no faith or trust in the government and believe they have evil intent . But with that said , I DO believe in the US soldiers conscience and self responsibility to do the right thing in the long run , especially on their own soil . They have families as well .

  • gat31 May 23, 2011, 11:40 am

    Well, we all have that feeling that SOMETHING is gonna come down the pike and this is why we prep. In 2004 l was in a Pizza Hut for 10 days with 22 people during hurricane Charley and it’s aftermath. It took 4 days before the water came on (city water but still had to boil it before drinking it) then another 6 for power. Most of the people that were in there didn’t have a home to go back to and had those 10 days to find other arrangements. We were lucky. The shelter the town had everyone go to collapsed during the storm and those people had to be moved. We went to our homes after the storm and gathered whatever items we could (food, blankets, med supplies, etc) and just worked together until it was safe for the town to start operating again.
    The one thing that stays with me is how many people depended on the FEMA people to give them water, food, and ice. Also the National Guard was posted at every road into town and wouldn’t let anyone in without ID to prove they lived there.( to prevent looting) We had to go to another town almost 25 miles away to get gas for generators and chain saws (to clear debris) That town came to a complete halt for 10 days just because of no power. Now with all these different countries we seem to be in and bombing, how long before one retaliates and say drops an EMP? This entire country could come to a screeching halt.
    This is my biggest worry. This is what l prep for.
    Indiana just pretty much abolished the 4th amendment and said illegal search and seizure? Sure no problem have at it! That means now we have a presidense to do it in other states for “our safety” Body scanners in airports and major sporting events? Sure go ahead its for “our safety”
    The biggest thing terrorists ever did to us is not the 9/11 event, it’s the total fear it invoked after wards. We are letting our rights be taken away all for fear of terrorism. The sad thing is, we DON’T have chaos in the streets. We DON”T have protesters trying to stop it. We have millions of people still going along with it like it’s fine. Let them do something to the final show of American Idol though and maybe we will!
    FEMA camps? l wouldn’t put it past the Government though l’m not sure what it will accomplish. However, how many prominent Jews never thought they would be touched by Hitler because they were so rich, but they were turned in by neighbors for cash. The thing is, we are seeing things change for the worst everyday. Like water dripping on a rock, takes a long time before there’s a hole. The water is dripping, but since it’s not a cataclysmic event, we don’t seem to notice the hole is coming.Sorry it seems l have rabbit trailed all over the place here but you asked. l know l try to go through day to day here like it’s fine but deep inside l feel the tension and the feeling of dread. Good luck everyone and happy prepping!

    • gat31 May 23, 2011, 11:47 am

      Hey Jason, with Obama wanting to return Israel to 1967 borders, should l be worried yet?

      • YukonBry May 23, 2011, 12:01 pm

        Worry? Depends on where you live.

        Next step will probably be to return the southwest U.S. to Mexico, and the Louisiana Purchase to France.

      • T.R May 23, 2011, 12:45 pm

        Ya , that “one world order” egomaniac wants to do a lot of things …… fortunately , The Israelis aren’t going to listen to him . Others are starting to see that he isn’t the great savior he claimed to be either . I love it when other countries tell us to go take a hike and mind our own business .

        • T.R May 24, 2011, 12:30 am

          As far as the southwest being returned to Mexico … Its already happening with the steady stream of illegals coming across unchecked and a government that refuses to do anything about it . Wonder how many are actually terrorists ?

  • Anonymous May 23, 2011, 11:43 am

    I think it looks more and more likely there will be a complete economic collapse.
    There is just too much chaos going on world wide right now to not collapse.
    These tornadoes are beyond belief and my sympathies go out to everyone involved.
    As usual the Red Cross is busy trying to keep volunteers out. Seems like that is all they care about when there is a disaster . Keep anyone away that might be able to offer assistance.
    I think they do have FEMA camps out there . Look at the big ha ha on the CDC’s website this week. After all they have to have someplace to put all these Section Eighters when the big one hits here in CA.
    So I guess I am a little bit of all 3.

  • T.R. May 23, 2011, 11:53 am

    Be prepared as best you can BUT as the song goes ” paranoia will destroy ya ” or something like that . Attitude is everything , and if you believe life is a $hit sandwich , and every day is another bite ……… IT WILL BE ! ( for YOU ) You can only and realistically prepare for so much . After that you need to have or get a life . I knew a guy that was absolutely convinced about the Y2K thing . You remember that horse$hit dont ya ? He bought up all the supplies and gear he couldn’t afford ( he maxed out credit cards cuz he didnt think he would ever have to pay it back ) Then got stuck with a mountain of stuff he didnt need and bills he couldn’t pay when it didnt happen ! I think you get where I’m going with this . Get a life ! Live a life ! Yes prepare , but use your head about it also . That brings me to another point about listening to the media ….. dont believe a word they say ! they want ratings … not facts !

  • Al Barnes May 23, 2011, 1:04 pm

    While taking a class in Emergency Management at the University of Maryland a few months ago, the approach to being prepared whether it be a community or even on the individual level, is to take an all hazards approach to being or becoming prepared. Instead of focusing on one particular hazard your preparations should encompass all potentialities for your particular area.
    When the CDC blog this week came out about Zombie Apocalypse in tongue in cheek fashion, this same all hazards approach was what was being stressed. The way one prepares for one emergency is the way to prepare for basically all emergencies.
    I consider myself a prepper, I have a young daughter and like any parent I try to take into consideration every potential threat to my child whether it be from people who would do her harm, to the weather, to the bad influence of her friends to something as simple as a skinned knee. I want to protect my daughter, my family, from any and all threats that would potentially come their(our) way.
    Do I believe the world will come to an end anytime soon? No. Will I be prepared to the best of my ability for any potential threat/danger be it man made or a natural disaster? Absolutely!

    • Jarhead Survivor May 23, 2011, 8:23 pm

      Trying to be as prepared as you can for everything is good advice. One of the biggest events I plan for is a blizzard/power outage situation, which happened to use last spring. We lost power for three days due to a big storm. While it was a major pain we at least had enough supplies to ride it out comfortably.

      I think that once you’ve got one *big* disaster planned for you’re well on your way to being prepared for most anything.

      • Al Barnes May 23, 2011, 9:00 pm

        I worked as a freelance photojournalist for almost 15 years and have been stuck in several countries as the government failed and two of the most important Items I carried with me and kept close were US dollars and an Eton short wave radio because when the government fails outside news is usually all you have to rely on to know what the situation is in the country that you are stuck in, that and you learn things like hotel survival what floor to stay on to give you the best opportunity for egress not too high and not too low. It was a mad,mad ride sometimes. Being a freelancer there was no cavalry riding to the rescue.

        • Jarhead Survivor May 24, 2011, 6:40 am

          Sounds like I’m not the only adrenaline junky out there!

    • T.R. May 23, 2011, 9:19 pm

      Well said Al !!!!!!!

  • Prepared N.D. May 23, 2011, 1:46 pm

    I try to break the threats down into “not if, but when” and “possible” categories.

    My first category threats here are tornadoes and ice storms. Man made threats are always possible, but haven’t happened yet *knock on wood*

    I see the biggest threats being in the possible category – economy, some sort of attack, or a very large natural disaster. Something that would disrupt the entire country and cause panic. Those are the wild card disasters that are not as likely but would require a higher level of preparedness on my part.

    I’ve lived through several ice storms with no problems (we were quite comfortable), and I experienced the April 27th tornado super outbreak which was the largest in the country and the 4th deadliest I believe. It was a wild day, one of the larger ones missed my property by less than a mile, and we were without power here for a week. The entire northern portion of the state was without power for a few days and everyone was in full emergency mode. Statistically, I’ve already lived through the worst storms I should see in my lifetime, so I’m pretty comfortable in my preparedness level there because I handled those events with no problems.

    From what I’ve seen, the disaster itself never really determines severity (unless you’re ground zero) – it’s the people and how they react to the disaster that counts. If everyone cooperates and maintains order, all is well – if people decide to be an asshole, TSHTF pretty quickly.

    I don’t know how bad a national scale event could get – I’m familiar enough with the history of other countries to know it can get pretty darn bad, so I just plan for the worst scenario I can come up with and be done with it.

  • Austin May 23, 2011, 2:18 pm

    That’s so interesting that you wrote about this today. I also put up an article I had written, essentially about the holocost and the Stanford prison experiment and why it could happen here.

    So pretty much that is my biggest concern about TEOTWAWKI. People survive earthquakes, tsunamis, radiation..etc. They often even help each other out. The real scary thing is when people turn on each other because of beliefs, skin color…etc. Its especially frightening to me today as I watch people take what they hear in the mass media as unequivocal fact.

  • Anonymous May 23, 2011, 4:56 pm

    We are in for an economic collapse that will shake this country to it’s core. The depression came when we were still resource rich and on the gold standard with nearly no national debt. The same can’t be said today. Weather you love the current administration or hate them and weather you agree with all the bail outs or not they did do succeed in kicking the can down the road. Some people have used this brief reprieve to right their financial ship and get out of debt (as evidenced by the increase in the savings rate). They will be in better shape when the bill for that bail out comes due and we are forced to recon with our spending. I guess that’s the point of what we’re doing here. Putting ourselves in a better position by prepping.

  • Dee in OK May 23, 2011, 5:33 pm

    Being the nature lover that are, you would be awed by a tornado. The wind is blowing hard enough to bend huge trees, leaves and other debris are swirling, rain is pelting straight down then changing to sideways, the sky is darkening and the light is a sickly green and then…stillness and silence. The air is humid and dank, the light begins to change to a brownish murk, you feel a strange pressure in your ears and then the sound reaches you. It sounds like a huge train is barreling toward you from only a few feet away. Then it gets scary. Gravity is suspended and things begin to levitate. Innocuous items become deadly. And then all hell breaks loose. I can’t tell you more about it because my ass was hauling itself to safety!
    The aftermath is unbelievable. No amount of pictures can truly show you the utter devastation and the odd things that happen. I saw a 60′ oak tree upended and buried top down in the middle of a major intersection; a man that had a piece of straw drilled through his forearm; a house picked up and sat back down on its’ side; a car on top of a 20 story building (my hotel); whole neighborhoods wiped out except for one house smack dab in the middle that was untouched. Amazing.

    I prep because these things (and ice storms and floods, etc,) happen where I live.
    I prep because 2008 was only a preview of our next economic meltdown.
    I prep because my personal rate of inflation (gasoline, groceries, utilities, guns and ammo, medicine, etc.) is currently between 15-25%.
    I prep because I want to be self-sufficient.
    I prep because our government continues to lie to us about so many things that I can no longer see the truth.

    Thank you to all of you who continue to inspire me and remind me of what is neccesary.

    • Jarhead Survivor May 23, 2011, 8:26 pm

      Thank you for an excellent comment, Dee.

  • noisynick May 23, 2011, 6:52 pm

    i live not far from joplin Mo. and lost my home 2 tornado two years ago
    My preps made things easier we had all the essentials. I had often believed prepping for a natural disaster or job loss made more sense than anything many talk about. But now I think financial disaster is moving to the forefront. Natural disaster is hard to Prep for other than the basics and cover bases, insurance cash on hand,BOB,BOV etc.
    Govermental sponsored disaster when they control or influence all things
    thats SCARY too me………..

  • Wally May 23, 2011, 10:36 pm

    Economic collapse? Gee…our country is 14 TILLION dollars in debt, we’re engaged in 3 wars, fuel prices are going through the roof, and the vast majority of the sheepable are more concerned over the “royal wedding” and “dancing with the stars”… I sure in heck think the world as we have known it is coming to an end. Although my wife and I feel as comfy as possible with our lives, I’m more concerned about our house-apes; they aren’t going to have nearly as fruitful country as we grew up in. But, they will be fed, clothed, protected, and educated.
    Personally think that a good house cleaning that this upcoming collapse is going to provide WON’T be a bad thing in the long run.

    • Anonymous May 24, 2011, 12:17 am

      Just remember , installing a new government after a revolution , wipes the slate clean :) we owe nothing at that point , any deals they had were with the old guys .

  • gat31 May 23, 2011, 11:42 pm

    Ok this is kinda off topic but maybe not. One of my all time favorite movies was The Postman with Kevin Costner. And before you roll your eyes, it was the idea that we formed communities, and helped each other out after a crisis. Also that people were willing to go back to the pony express type of days to let others know they survived.Now that being said,
    l have a friend who wants to hike/drive across country if and when SHTF.
    He can’t go yet because of ex spouse and children and custody.But, like he said post SHTF ,if it’s a major crisis, all bets are off. So What do you think of possible outposts or maybe a network of like minded people who might be willing to say put someone up for a day? l know most people would be afraid of thieves and what not, but what do you think the likelyhood of people setting up some kind of outpost/store/supply area in smaller towns for people? l keep thinking back to the movie The Book of Eli and how there were small outposts of people who tried to make something out of virtually nothing. Yes corruption still existed, but the idea is sound l think. Anyways just an observation curious to comments.

    • Jennie May 24, 2011, 2:14 pm

      Check out ANTS. American’s Networking to Survive. They have people standing by to chain-relay supplies to an area with ANTS members in need of help. They have communications ants and camp ants, there might be something there your friend could plug into.

      • gat31 May 24, 2011, 8:43 pm

        awesome!! tyvm!

  • c June 9, 2011, 11:23 am

    Wally “the vast majority of the sheepable are more concerned over the “royal wedding”

    I totally agree man

    The Zionazi’s are using 2012 games and Fifa allegations and that stupid Ryan Giggs injunction and basically ANYTHING to distract the masses of sheeple.

    Did you know on the day of Rupert Murdoch (freemason and zionist jew – not the same as ordinary jewish men women and children, I’m not racist, K ppl?) aquiring BSkyB, one british newspaper thought that A DENTIST SACKED FOR FARTING WAS MORE NEWS


  • c June 9, 2011, 11:24 am

    that should be more NEWSWORTHY*

    Oh yeah and Bin laden didn’t do 9/11

    And in the UK we know our gov did 7/7




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