Oh No! 2012 Is Right Around The Corner!

If you hit this blog  looking for end of the world info due to the Mayan calendar ending in 2012, you might want to check out this link.

If you landed here looking for info on how to survive and maybe even thrive when TSHTF stick around for awhile.

Today I’d like to chat about doomsday cults and other organizations that whole-heartedly put all their doomsday eggs in one basket.  I was reading this story on CNN the other day about a group of people who think that the world is going to end on May 21, 2011 due to some guy’s translation of events in the bible.  Interestingly, a lot of end of the world beliefs are religious based, but not all.  In the last couple thousand years there have been hundreds of people predicting the end of the world which, as you can see, didn’t 2012 calendar quite pan out.

Then I got to thinking:  What’s the difference between me and all these people who are followers of these religious leaders (or anyone) predicting the end of the world on a certain date?  What would cause me to walk away from family, friends, my home, pets, and all my stuff?  Well, a loaded gun might convince me to move on, but rest assured I’d be back with a plan and a bigger gun.

The Question

The fundamental question really becomes:  what is the difference between these people and myself?  Is it a fine line or are they big differences?

First of all, most of these people take the bible as a literal translation.   I don’t.  I’m neither anti-religious nor over-religious.  I tend to be scientific in my approach to things and in those matters the bible doesn’t enter into my thinking.  So if someone were to tell me that on May 21, 2011 the world is going to end I’d say, “Oh yeah?  Can I have your car if you don’t want it anymore?”  Sorry, but I just don’t believe that the world is going to end due to a religious Armageddon.  Ever.

Another difference is that these people tend to believe in a specific date that the “event” is going to transpire.  From where I sit there’s no way you can predict something from the bible by going in and trying to unlock secrets that are ambiguous at best.  And don’t think I’m referring only to the bible because I’m not.  This also applies to any book, religious or otherwise, that has predicted the end and failed including the above mentioned Mayan calendar.

While we may predict some events that may happen such as the real-estate bubble and crash, a market crash, or political events such as the revolt in the Middle-East, it’s nearly impossible to specify the year it will happen much less a certain day that it will unfold on.  Instead someone (Peter Schiff for example)  says, “Watch that housing bubble.  It’s gonna pop some day,” and when it does he suddenly looks like a genius and gets vaulted into the limelight.

Third, these people believe that “The End” is total.  All life will be wiped out.  I do not.  Sure, there are certain scenarios where it could happen, but it’s not likely.


So the differences between me and these cults or groups of people are:

a.) I don’t believe the bible or any other book is a literal translation of events that will unfold,

b.) I don’t believe an exact date can be set for these events,

c.) I don’t believe in a total “End of the World” type scenario that will completely wipe out all life on the planet.  (Other than a comet or asteroid or some such Landscape event.)

d.)  I wouldn’t walk away from everything even if I did believe the “end is near”.

So Why Do I Prep?

If I don’t believe all these warnings of doom why do I prep?  Excellent question.  While I may not believe in portents of doom that come from many directions, I do believe that trouble could come from just about anywhere.  If you look around the country and the world today you can see many reasons to be prepared for trouble:  trouble in the Mid-East pushing up oil prices, an aging infrastructure for electrical delivery, water delivery, and a JIT system dependent on fossil fuels (see the Mid-East reference above).

Add to that an economy being flooded with money (currency debasement) and food crops in trouble due to crazy weather patterns, then I’d say there’s plenty of reason to have a pantry full of food and some kind of SHTF plan.

SHTF could mean anything from a fire or flood in your home, to an economic meltdown, to a nuclear war.  Some of these events are more likely to happen than others; however, that doesn’t mean I’m not going to take a little time and prepare myself for anything that might happen.

What Do I Gain?

By having a nice full pantry, gasoline standing by with a generator, a water filter and water barrels among other things, I know that I can get by for a time without outside help if need be.  I don’t have to rely on anyone else to bring food or water to me or my family if TSHTF.  How many people have you seen standing in food lines or staying in shelters after a disaster because they didn’t have anything at home?

To say, “Well, that ain’t never happened before and it won’t happen now,” is one of the most asinine arguments a person can make.  Anything can happen and given enough time most likely will happen.  The question is will you be ready when it does?

There have been comments on this blog (and other blogs) lately about preparing out of fear.  I don’t prep because I’m scared and I hope you don’t either.  I do it so I don’t have to be scared.  If you don’t believe that something bad will ever happen go ahead and cancel your insurance.  You won’t get in an accident, or get sick or break a bone or have some kind of medical emergency.  I don’t pay my insurance premiums because I’m scared, I do it because when TSHTF I’ve got some back up.  Unlike an insurance company though, my preps won’t fight me when I make a claim!

My personal belief is that when you do prep and are fully prepared (whatever that is), or even somewhat prepared, then fear doesn’t play into it.  Prepping is your insurance policy and should give you peace of mind when things get ugly.

Getting back to 2012… I believe there is no chance that the world will end because a calendar written 2011 years ago suddenly runs out.

But I’m ready for it just in case.

Are you prepared?


Jarhead Survivor


“It ain’t happened before, and it won’t happen now.”

I’m sure there were people sitting around just before Vesuvius blew its top back in the summer of ’79 AD saying just that.

Read here for an interesting history of that volcano.  I didn’t realize it’s erupted 50 times since then though.  History does repeat itself folks!

43 comments… add one
  • sanityjones March 11, 2011, 9:45 pm

    To be fair, the Bible nowhere states that the Earth will see destruction on any specific day. It does state that destruction WILL come and no man knows the time…………This does not seem too far fetched to me. The fact is that it is all irrelevant anyhow because prep as we might, our days are indeed numbered…………eventually we are all doomed as death will embrace us all. This is why I view my preps from strictly an investment perspective. I will have food, fuel, water, defense, and a few PM’s bought at today’s prices to be consumed in my retirement years. If TSHTF before retirement then I’m covered. If it doesn’t HTF then I’ll have an easy retirement, and when I’m dead my kids can use it. Like you, I do not know when extended unemployment, illness, natural disaster, or numerous other potential lifestyle interruptions may occur. Hell, even animals prep for winter. Also, please try not to confuse the doctrines of Christianity with the heresies of lunatics, cult leaders, or any other who would command a price to “enlighten” you/us/me to the “truth”. I am prepped and prepared for whatever comes my way, and although I have not made my mind up about how it will all play out, I am not afraid of the uncertainty of it all whether it come tomorrow or 50 years form now. We could just as easily wake up tomorrow to some cataclysm in this country as Japan did today; prep accordingly.

  • irishdutchuncle March 11, 2011, 9:56 pm

    it’s awfully presumptuous of these people to pronounce a certain date for the end, when the Lord himself would not. Christ stated that the time was known only to God the Father. it should be sufficient for us to know it’s coming… He said it was coming.

    • Jason March 12, 2011, 12:55 am

      1 Thessalonians 5:2-3

      For you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

      That’ll be the real SHTF & TEOTWAWKI

  • Spook45 March 11, 2011, 10:58 pm

    Hmmm,,,……….BRING IT ON!!!!

  • ChefBear58 March 12, 2011, 4:24 am

    Personally, I DO believe what is described in the Bible (specifically Revelations) will happen the way it is written. To each their own though!
    While I don’t necessarily prescribe tho what some of the more “hardcore” folks try to “shout from the rooftops” about 2012, but I admit that there is a possibility that something could happen. The fact that several cultures have similar stories/predictions about the same day means that (to me at least), might as well prep for it… After all I would be doing similar preps anyway this just speeds up my time available a little bit.

    For a prepper, it runs contrary to the idea of getting ready for whatever “is over the horizon” if you simply dismiss a possible “world changing” event no matter what we think of the source information. Also, just because you are not specifically prepping for the whole “2012- world ending”, doesn’t mean that you won’t have an advantage over someone who is not prepared/be prepared for it simply because you are a prepper!

    Just my opinion, you don’t have to agree!

  • Anonymous March 12, 2011, 8:15 am

    if only jason was on vacation in japan all of this could have been prevented.


    “In Mito, another town in the area, long lines formed outside a damaged supermarket as hundreds waited for medicine, water and other supplies. Supplies ran low as people stocked up, not knowing how long it would take for fresh goods to arrive.

    “All the shops are closed, this is one of the few still open. So I came to buy and stock up on diapers, drinking water and food,” Kunio Iwatsuki, 68, told Reuters.”

    even people miles away from the actual disaster zones will be affected with food, water, fuel and other shortages.

    i do wonder about the theories about the “super moon” that will be at it’s closest on march 19th and if the extra gravitational pull (as theorized) is causing additional effect the earth tectonic plates etc which may increase volcanic and earthquake activity.

    interesting there have been multiple volcanic eruptions the past few days and other earthquakes too – but with the media so focused on only the “biggest and most sensational” it’s not front page news and not as easy to see the pattern of additional quakes and volcanic activity happening.

    just read that one of their nuclear plants have exploded… wonder how the other damaged plants will fare.

    • Jason March 12, 2011, 11:48 am

      Have you nothing constructive to say?

      “if only jason were on vacation in japan….” is probably the most ridiculous thing I’ve read from you – and that says a lot. To reduce the tragedy in Japan to an idiotic joke is deplorable.

      Why don’t you take it a step further & expand upon the Japanese residents who were into the “normalcy bias” and teach them how they should have prepped like you, while thumbing your nose at them.

      You can sit, staring at the computer monitor in your little vicarious world and point out the faults of anyone who does not align with your myopic view, then NOT contribute anything to the betterment of others. Such a sad life …

      The United Negro College Fund has a slogan that perfectly applies to you – “a mind is a terrible thing to waste.”

      • Anonymous March 12, 2011, 5:09 pm

        the only one i thumb my nose at is you – after all – you are the one who said nothing bad ever happens and it is a waste to prepare for anything.

        go back and read all your old posts – or perhaps you can’t see with the egg all over your face.

        i feel terrible for the people in japan – i can only hope that many have prepared and did not get browbeaten out of their views with a dolt like you nagging those who did think it was prudent to prepare.

      • Anonymous March 12, 2011, 5:15 pm

        ha, ha!

        man this is funny – i can only assume as you are bi-polar as doesn’t this sum up most of your posts?

        why are you here? after all just two days ago you said it was all a waste to prepare for anything? typical troll… can’t let go. won’t ever go…

        “You can sit, staring at the computer monitor in your little vicarious world and point out the faults of anyone who does not align with your myopic view, then NOT contribute anything to the betterment of others. Such a sad life …”

        • Jason March 12, 2011, 8:42 pm

          A1 & A2,

          Try a little substance & use your brain for something more than your hit & run, cheap comments.

          Stop wasting everybody’s time with your sophomoric digs.

          • Anonymous March 12, 2011, 10:19 pm

            ha ha! so funny… YOU are telling someone to stop wasting everybody’s time?!? SERIOUSLY!?!?

            how long have you belittled and harassed people in this forum because you were sure that you were right in your opinion and they were wrong? “there is no reason to prep nothing ever happens!” sound familiar?

            i’ve been here for maybe a month and saw plenty of your attitude and attacks in that little amount of time – so much so that the admins of this site admonish you apparently once again for it – so for once someone does not shrink away from your bullying and you are fit to be tied…

            you certainly seemed to have no problem attacking anybody that has a view opposite of your own… and i don’t think it is normalcy bias that is/was your issue as much as plain ignorance.

            you were so lucky and had parents who were prepared – who essentially were giving you great life lessons growing up – many of us are overcoming much less favorable circumstances then that – and it can be hard at times to break away from what you were taught growing up – what your role models were – to feel the need to prepare and do what you feel is right even though your own friends and family may think you are crazy or gone off the deep end.

            to find a place like this forum where many have finally found others who share their same views and it should be safe to express concerns and look for support and answers – not made even more difficult with some anonymous “jason” harassing and belittling their views – all the while nobody can even figure out why you are here to begin with since YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN IT!

            as i’ve asked before – why are you even here? why do you keep coming back to this forum?

            so what happened? after japan now you are a true believer in prepping? and now suddenly feel there may be indeed a reason to prep for unknown circumstances? well if so, then that is a good thing… maybe for some unknown reason this latest world disaster has finally opened your eyes and maybe you now can see how your parents prepped because they cared about you and themselves, and wanted to be prepared should something happen. how they wanted to do what all parents should feel to do (but many do not) to protect and safeguard their family from dangers, known and unknown… i can only wish i had that head start…

            if you’ve changed your mind, that is good news, and i wish you well with your change of view and as always encourage it’s never too late to prepare for unknown events.

          • noisynick March 13, 2011, 9:20 am

            what planet do you reside on? What I need to prepare for is
            people who go to sites such as this . And want sympathy for there lack of insight. Can’t blame Circumstances or Parents for the
            things you Lack . these issues have been around a long time this Site is here along with others to garner knowledge and exchange views.
            You would have great HeadStart if you would just by being positive. and the Good News is It won’t cost you a Thing.

          • Ranger Man March 13, 2011, 9:28 am

            Noisy, I *think* your comment was in response to the Anonymous comment that now shows earlier in this thread, a response to Jason. That comment was momentarily cast down to the bottom of the thread as I was removing the threatening language in Jason’s comment. You may have responded to a comment that was momentarily out of context … ?

          • noisynick March 13, 2011, 10:33 am

            Thanks Rangerman if that were the case i apoligize to all concerned and Thank You for taking care of it. i enjoy the blog much and remember a time you were giving it up glad you didn’t. And your right my comment was in Regards to anonymous. You do a Great job here………………

          • Anonymous March 13, 2011, 12:15 pm

            sorry for the confusion noisynick – i was unsure too as why that reply was so far down the list originally… i’m bored with the other “issue”, so i’ll get back to enjoying this blog and the nice community here.

            i’m wondering if anybody has seen more updated info on the radiation leaks in japan and any projected issues from it for the US – yesterday on the news there seemed a lot of talk about it and today it seems much more quiet – just wondering if that stuff makes it across the gulf stream… that is not a great think to look forward to for CA and other west coast areas… and i wonder if there is an issue from it how our government would/could respond to such a large area being potentially affected – not sure if they have tens of millions of iodine pills on hand if such a need was urgent etc…

          • Jason March 13, 2011, 5:40 pm


            May want to read up on it a little more – ie disapation & type of used. It’s all available with a couple of mouse clicks.

            Also, we dropped 2 weapons grade nuclear devices on that same country a few decades back that had slightly more radiation & spread through the atmosphere, tested some devices above ground in the Nevada desert about the same time and none hit California.

            I’m guessing that by the time it travelled 10,000 miles in the wind it would lose any ill effect for the west coast but I could be wrong but it’s nice seeing people out there thinking it through – good job!

            However, I think it’s safe to say, the coast is clear.

          • Jason March 13, 2011, 6:28 pm


            Little update for you :


            Please note & read this excerpt carefully –

            “It is unclear how far the impact of a meltdown might reach. In the United States, local communities plan for evacuation typically within 10 miles of a nuclear plant. <<<<<

            However, states must be ready to cope with contamination of food and water as far as 50 miles away. <<<<

            Radioactivity can also be carried to faraway places by the winds, as it was in the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, though it will become increasingly diffuse. <<<>>>>Acute radiation deaths would normally be expected only much closer to the plant. <<<<

            ****** Important note *********

            The reactor that exploded at Chernobyl, sending a cloud of radiation over much of Europe, was not housed in a sealed container as those at Dai-ichi are. The Japanese reactors also do not use graphite, which burned for several days at Chernobyl."

    • Spook45 March 13, 2011, 9:59 am

      The “supermoon” as it is called does have a profound effect however the CME was the catalist that set up the total chain of events that lead to the situation we now have. There are some geo-physisist and astro-physisists that predicted a large event(not being able to predict where or exactly when) would happen very soon after the Christchurch quake sighting the previously predicted CME that impacted the earth below the equater in South Africa and the upcoming supermoon. They say the Japan quake was so strong that it shifted the earths axis; I disagree it was more likely that the change in magnitism fro mthe moons gravitational pull combined with the CME and the timing of the pole shift is what moved the earths axis and the quake was a tectonic movement of forced correction in response to the change in magnitism due to the change in axis at such a rapid rate.

  • DW March 12, 2011, 9:20 am

    P.S. It is a long article. Here is a shorter summary: http://newdawnsurvival.com/blog5/

    • Ranger Man March 13, 2011, 9:05 am

      Your link just takes the reader to your blog and not a specific, related post – ? The post I think you meant to direct to has a dead link.

      • DW March 13, 2011, 11:47 am

        Here is the link for an interesting pessimistic 2012 article again:


        Sorry everyone. Hope this one is not dead.

        Site promotion was not my intention. I put the P.S. in as an afterthought. As I said, it is a long article.

        • Ranger Man March 13, 2011, 12:59 pm

          I see what you’re saying, if you submitted an original comment with that link, I didn’t see it. I only saw the P.S. comment which seemed strange, because I wasn’t sure what you were writing a P.S to.

  • Spook45 March 12, 2011, 10:06 am

    You can get a glimpse of this right now in real time from Japan. The nuke site just popped! Thats a nightmare scenerio, NO WHERE TO RUN TO NOWHERE TO HIDE! Nothing like living on an Island!

  • Judith March 12, 2011, 10:13 am

    I am a simple person. I just wish religion could be completely left out of the prepping-survival blogs.

    • sanityjones March 12, 2011, 2:12 pm

      Is Darwinism include in your categorization? How about Atheism? These are both government sponsored religions which are forced upon the public at large, beginning in Kindergarten, a large part of which is based upon nothing more than speculation and wild imaginings of pseudo scientists trying like hell to discredit any other possible explanation for the existence of the universe. My world view is not being forced upon you when it’s posted in these forums, in newspapers, on television, or anywhere else. I find it fascinating that those who consider the Christian world view to be nothing more than fairy tales are so easily offended by it’s simple message and spend so much time attempting to discredit it or disallow it. I do understand that most people do not wish to get into a religious debate on a site which is not expressly designed for that purpose, nor do I however I will always attempt to properly instruct those who have been mislead by others into believing that the Christian faith stand on a foundation of ignorance. Religion and Christianity are worlds apart and frankly have nothing in common, so we are in agreement after all. For those interested there are more than one strictly logical/philosophical arguments that require beyond any doubt that there be a God. It is an undeniable necessity, what we call Him is irrelevant. Thanks for reading, I won’t bring it up again unless asked.

      • Jason March 12, 2011, 2:46 pm

        Well put Sanityjones.

        What I find interesting is the mentioning of darwinism, atheism, Buddah, the Dali Lama, Muslims, Mohhamed, Mormonism or any other ism etc etc gets nearly no reaction compared to merely mentioning Jesus Christ & Christianity. Gee, I wonder why ….

        • Judith March 12, 2011, 3:44 pm

          I didn’t say it was a fairy tale. I said I wished that it could be left off of the prepper-survival blogs. If all anyone talks about is the end times then what is the use in prepping.
          By the way, I have a letter from my grandmother in 1949 saying that the polio epidemic that year is surely the endtimes. Somehow they just never seem to get here.

          • sanityjones March 12, 2011, 4:12 pm

            I understand your position Judith and I am not trying to put words in your mouth. I believe that while not all viewpoints are logically valid the freedom to express independent ideologies should exist in all venues unhindered as long a mutual respect and decency can be maintained; then let the reader decide for him/herself. This is a privately owned and operated blog, therefore the owner does have the right to disallow certain material. There was a time when I did not believe many things. There was a time when I did not prep. As human beings we learn and we grow as long as we are able to entertain heretofore unimaginable notions………..such as the world is round, etc. I prep because of my faith, not in spite of it. I prep from a foundation of truth, wisdom, and charity; not out of fear. The end has indeed come for many great nations and civilizations throughout recorded history, and the end will come for us as well. The signs are evident for all to see, whether they choose to view it from a religious perspective or economic, social, moral, historical, agricultural or physical ones there are plenty of reasons to take basic precautionary measures to insure oneself against the pitfalls of life in whatever manner they come. Polio was not the end of days for most, but for some it most certainly was. Keep in mind that anything taken to an extreme is unhealthy, therefore balance and simplicity become the keys to a successful and enjoyable lifestyle.

        • Schatzie Maggers March 12, 2011, 7:21 pm

          Mormonism is just another word for the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints.

    • Jumbo March 12, 2011, 4:05 pm

      Unfortunately, many people of the world are brainwashed by religion at an early age and never come to an age of reason.

      In the US it’s Christianity, in other places Bhuddism, Islam, Hinduism, etc. Europe is one of the few places that have some truly secular societies.

      However, you need to get used to incorporating religious thought and practices into your survival preps, because it’s a fact of life and something you need to learn to deal with. Soon even secular Europe will be a Moslem land and Europeans will be forced to submit or go under the sword. Please read some of the things going on now in Europe that are precursors to the next Crusades (or maybe the ‘Reverse Crusades’) and think about how that will effect you and your survival.

      No man (or woman) is an island, and to understand people you have to understand what motivates them and religion is a huge motivator. I’m not saying you have to believe anything, I’m saying that you need to observe and learn, because objecting to any religious person/group from spouting their beliefs will get you victimized, exiled, or burned as a witch.

      And if you want to compare Christianity to other religions, I like this quote from Hirsi Ali: “All human beings are equal, but all cultures and religions are not. A culture that celebrates femininity and considers women to be the masters of their own lives is better than a culture that mutilates girls’ genitals and confines them behind walls and veils or flogs and stones them for falling in love. . . . The culture of the Western Enlightenment is better.”

  • DW March 12, 2011, 1:23 pm


    Just curious, why were my comments deleted?

    They were on topic, 2012 right?

    If you don’t want any links, just say, no problem.

    • Ranger Man March 13, 2011, 8:58 am

      The link caused it to get thrown into the “somewhat spammy” moderation bin. I approved it, but the comment reads as though you’re just pitching your site. We don’t mind external links in the comments section so long as they’re relevant to the subject and aren’t just “go read my blog post” type comments. I’m not saying that was your intent, just saying. If site promotion is a goal, we always consider a good guest post.

  • Spook45 March 12, 2011, 9:03 pm

    The religious overtones are simple expretions of faith most times. There is a stark paralell between the current events and the events predicted at some level. The biggest reason you see it so much among prepers is that first they are Americans, which all on its own is mostly christian. The other reaspon is that preppers are people of faith. Faith is enough to keep you alive when thats all you have left. If you dont belive that I can intro you to some vets from WW II and Vietnam who were stripped of everything but thier faith and tortured nearly tpo death. Thier FAITH and the thought of thier families are the only things that got them thru. You should never dismiss faith where it pertains to survival. There are no Athiests in foxholes. If you dont have any or you dont belive then far be it for you to question or overshadow some one elses faith. In the end, that persons faith may be tha one prep that gets them thru even if you dont think its real. If it keeps you alive, its real enough.

    • Jason March 12, 2011, 9:47 pm

      Well put Spook.

  • noisynick March 13, 2011, 8:28 am

    I thought the discussion was on 2012, Being right around the corner.
    Judith has a good point I come here to hone my prepping skills and knowledge and perhaps pick up a few things New to me.
    And religion plays a part but…….. I think this blogs stated purpose is about preparing for SHTF scenarios not necessarily End Times Prophecy. The Mayan Calendar just proves they had Religous Zealots
    back then as well and those same zealots were willing to write down there predicitons.
    We have alot of the those folks in Our time as well. Most are Religion based and are quick to promote there views and slow to admit anyone elses have any Validity……………….
    Seems what has taken Place in Japan recently is the Kinda thing we really should be eyeballing closely and perhaps getting ready for some form of Fall-Out Not necessarily Radiological either this could have long term financial implications world wide among other things..

    • Jason March 13, 2011, 11:02 am

      Japan – excellent point Nick.

  • Jason March 13, 2011, 10:51 am

    You’re fairly young and lack some critical thinking skills so, I’ll walk you through it slowly & I’ll make the assumption you are both A1 & A2 but, doesn’t matter.

    Wasting everybody’s time is about taking the point view discussions outside of this forum to respect the rest of the readers here unless of course, it is the audience you crave then, I cannot help you. Your expressed emotions, fears and anxieties shown in your paragraphs # 5 & 6 above pretty much tell your tale.

    You believe in prepping? Fantastic & will do nothing to dissuade you from your pursuits – 100% guaranteed. I’m only about the why & the mitigation of anxiety.

    Though you wrongly speculate, you know nothing about me, my motivation, my age – though I took your guess as a compliment, my levels of experience or possess much knowledge of current trends other than what you read on a few blogs or surface understanding of news & it’s ok with me – you’re young.

    My parents prepping for Y2K actually sent a different message to me – fear and panic based upon a speculated event, were bad motivators. They spent months prior to a “predicted end” – with an exact date no less, worrying needlessly & it took them a month to initially decompress from that failed prediction.

    So lastly and to be very clear – discuss things with me in my personal email address and you have the complete freedom to call me what you want, bring on anybody you wish for additional assistance – it doesn’t bother me one bit. I won’t even attack, I’ll simply clarify with facts.

    But as far as doing it here on Ranger’s Blog, I won’t – take it or leave it.

  • Jason March 13, 2011, 11:11 am

    This adds needed perspective & relevance.


    It will be VERY interesting to see how it is handled.

  • Ron Jeremy March 13, 2011, 4:29 pm

    If we would all renounce science and evolution and throw ourselves to the mercy of our savior Jesus Christ then the world would be a safe and wonderful place just when Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden. Satan has created dinosaur bones and talk of evolution when every Christian knows God made man and then made woman from the rib of a man. When “Rapture” comes, I will be whisked away on a white chariot you heaven while most of the heathens who question Jesus Christ will burn on Earth as it is destroyed in the Apocalypse. Sound Crazy?? It is…all religion is nuts. Put your time and energy into science and research, when you get sick – pray to your God to save you all you want….bottom line, you better get to a doctor who practices Science and Technology to save your butt. I used to be religious…until I started asking questions….questions the bible couldn’t answer. People said “You have to have faith” …Faith??? I put my faith in Glock and AR-15 to survive….not some book written by boy lovers in a dark room 2000 years ago. If Jesus Christ was the son of God….why did he die like a normal man? Oh ya….for our sins….how convenient.

    • irishdutchuncle March 14, 2011, 9:30 am

      i’ll assume for the moment that you are a real, conscious entity of some type, rather than some runaway, random number generator, in someones computer. so you’re probably alive.

      science does not even begin to explain what’s important. science doesn’t even understand what life is. nothing alive has ever been made in a laboratory, that wasn’t working with already living material.

      you can’t change the laws of physics: neither matter, nor energy was created, nor can either be destroyed by any ordinary means. the best understanding that science can come up with, for how this all came to be, is a creation event. (the “big bang”)

      don’t you have anything better to do with the time you’ve been given than to bash Christians? of course, the boy lovers have been a problem since before the septuagint. the devil always attacks where he believes he can do the most harm.

  • Anonymous March 13, 2011, 6:25 pm

    depending on the level of meltdown and explosion it appears we are safe for the time being – but it’s how high the RAD level that escapes if and when it could happen – it could be high enough RAD and pushed high enough into the atmosphere to travel over to our side – some jet stream results show it could be in as low as 36 hours (some estimates higher) so there is fluctuation in times to respond, but not really enough time for the government to perform any response to it should it be needed.

    currently it seems the leaked japan levels are low enough it won’t matter, but it appears there are currently three (some reports still saying two) reactors that are in critical condition with failed cooling systems and they are flooding them with seawater to attempt to cool them (which also ruins the reactor in most cases) – so just the act of flooding them is not always a final solution it appears – from what i’ve been reading, the next few days we will see what and how it pans out… and if that is somehow successful enough to prevent a core meltdown and potential greater radiation release.

    since this proactive side is quite new to you being a recent convert – as anybody else here who prepares probably knows – planning ahead and being prepared for the worst is the plan – not a short sighted “i’m in the clear today” diagnosis (but always with the hope that those plans are never needed – not mired in a depressing downward spiral gloom and doom)

    i’m not in any immediate danger zone, but still consider if i was what would i do – also there are reports that should a big quake hit CA (and being on the opposite side of that tectonic plate) it could be coming as that plate is doing a lot of shifting and CA seems overdue according to some estimates – there are multiple same style reactors in CA (built right on the fault line no less) that could cause radiation leaks and cause great damage and casualties that definitely would be in a short enough range and drift patterns to cause big problems for tens if not hundreds of millions – possibly all the way across the continental US if that was to be the worst case.


    it’s all out there for those willing to read up on it with a couple of mouse clicks.

    but like many here who want to be prepared and not depend on the substandard responses of our government – having preventatives in hand and a go to plan ahead of time is the important part – not flipping out and dreading the end of the world as some seem to portray – but just like in hand to hand combat – having a pre-planned (often almost pre-programmed move) to counter any number of potential threats to your person – that is the best way to defend – not trying to think of some defense after the fact.

    the next few days will be interesting for sure…

  • sanityjones March 13, 2011, 8:17 pm

    I suppose now would be a good time to stock up on rice, saki, and scallops, if you have not already done so that is.

  • Jack Fallin March 14, 2011, 9:55 am

    How quickly the world can change and how much we can learn. We all went to bed Thursday, with the world in its usual mess and woke Friday to the Disaster in Japan, which was of Biblical proportions. My heart goes out to those caught up in it and I hope that the recovery is as quick as possible but my gut tells me this is a preview of things to come. I hope that many of us can use this as a learning experience to help us to understand why we do what we do. For all of you with family members who think you are nuts for storing food and other emergency supplies have them watch the news and listen to what is happening. I think we all can do some soul searching to thank our maker, whatever name you use for sparing us but I also hope that we all realize that the world can change in the blink of an eye. I don’t know if the 2012 prediction is real or not and I don’t know what exactly I am preparing for, earthquakes, economic collapse, nuclear war or meltdown, Asteroids, Planet X, plagues or Zombies. I have had layoffs, Ice storms, Hurricanes, lived thru terrorist bombs, artillery attacks, the only tank battle in Vietnam and various other assorted mishaps and I learned from each and everyone of them. It does not matter for what you prepare, but that you do prepare. A layoff can be devestating and catastrophic as can a 7 day power outage from an ice storm or 2 weeks without power from a hurricane. We all should be able to relate to the need to prepare for our families as no one wants to have others see their families go thru what those tragic people in Honshu have lived thru. A hungry child or an injurd grandmother or an orphan or wandering refugee is tragic, heart wrenching and in some case avoidable. Do what you can while you can with what you have and go to sleep at night knowing that you did what you could today and if you get tommorrow you can try to do more and if not, you can at least know you did what you could. If we could know what we prepare for, it would be easy but life was not supposed to be easy or simple or fair. Do your best but do something and if you need any motivation, watch the news, that should do it. Peace
    Semper Fi


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