TSA Strikes Again – Stop Being Sheep!

Seems like there are more and more stories lately about the TSA and their pat downs in addition to other government agencies stepping beyond their limits.  Like most people I think I’m getting numb to them.

But then I read a story like this about a three year old girl in a wheel chair that gets pulled aside, has her doll taken away, and the parents told that TSA agents are going to have to give the little girl a pat down.  Oh, and I love the fact that the TSA told the mother that videotaping them is illegal.

Little Girl Searched by TSA


Are you freakin’ serious???

I wonder if that made the other travelers around them feel safer?  I wonder what those agents thought the little might possibly have been hiding?

Yesterday Mrs Jarhead and I were reminiscing about the good old days back when you could travel and not worry this kind of harassment.  (We also talked about when you could get real food and service and it didn’t cost you a mint to check a bag.)

But back to the topic, which is we Americans have got to stop being sheeple.  Some people feel safer giving up all their rights and handing over their pride and dignity at the gate.  Apparently some people are willing to trade their freedom so that they can travel with peace of mind.  They don’t mind being held up.  They don’t mind acting like docile little sheep being told what to do and when to do it.  We get enough of that every day.

I’m tired of handing over my rights and dignity so that others can feel safe when boarding an airplane.  Guess what?  There are no guarantees in life.  Here’s a quote from Fight Club:  “On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.”

Even if they nab that mad bomber there’s no saying that the aircraft itself isn’t going to crash because of an engine failure.  As the saying goes, “Shit happens.”

Here’s what bothers me.  In an effort not to stereotype and pick on the wrong people they choose folks like that little girl in the video to pat down and harass.

In the end I guess the image of that little girl crying and saying she doesn’t want to go to Disney is what tipped me over the edge.

Shame on anybody who’d put a young child through something like that and good on those parents for not letting those TSA agents touch their little girl.

If someone tried that with one of my kids I’d probably be a hell of a lot less gracious than those parents in the video.  I’m going to sign my name extra bold today, so that the  people in charge will be able to read it and know where I stand on this issue.

The TSA did eventually apologize for this, but it never should have happened in the first place.

How about it?

Have you had enough?

Sound off below!

-Jarhead Survivor

70 comments… add one
  • Northeastern prepper March 1, 2013, 7:30 am

    That’s total bs tsa are a real pain they can do what they want but when you try and record this is illegal when in public you are allowed to video there is no expectation of privacy ruin child’s trip to Disney next you have to fly go hours early just to be a pain in the ass of tsa and opt out of searches they may try to detain you think you will miss your flight I would rather drive then be harassed by tsa opt out

  • preppper March 1, 2013, 7:31 am

    whats the answer to not being Sheeple on this issue?

    drive everywhere?

    take a boat?

    sad story

    • Vicky March 1, 2013, 3:22 pm

      You got it! Drive or walk everywhere and even that might not be legal much longer. Have you ever had to stop at one of the “safety” checkpoints or, worse, sobriety, checkpoints? (And I don’t drink, at all.) They want to inspect everything and you better have proof. Highway Patrol troopers are the worst, about as bad as TSA. Hit the airlines in the wallet by not buying their tickets and I’d never go to Disneyland, anyway, although that’s my personal choice. Too many fairy tales in this country already.

      • preppper March 1, 2013, 3:33 pm

        good point, i was stopped at a road block last summer, the first time

        i was not allowed to pass unless i answered questions about where I was coming from and what I was doing

        I don’t drink and it was just me my wife and my toddler in the car, not suspicious at all, they let us go

        so scratch driving, and scratch flying, guess that just leaves boats and trains?

    • Wally March 2, 2013, 10:54 am

      That’s how we travel now. Unless it’s an emergency due to family issues, we either drive (which the kids enjoy- we stop after 5-6 hrs after finding hotel with an indoor pool) or I’ll take Amtrak. It’s pathic to think that in our so-called land of the free some will allow themselves to this.

  • JAS March 1, 2013, 8:40 am

    I no longer fly and I suggest to everyone that they don’t either. The only way to stop this type of actions is to hurt the airlines themselves. When people stand up and say no more flying until it changes, airlines will start screaming. I know some have to fly for business, ETC, but if at all possible, do not fly. I also do not go to places that make you go through a search to enter, such as theme parks and sport stadiums.

    • Jarhead Survivor March 1, 2013, 11:42 am

      Hit ’em in the wallet. Let them know you’re serious. Great idea, JAS.

  • Jason March 1, 2013, 9:30 am

    What was the sole purpose of the TSA being at airports, according to our government? To search for weapons to be used to hijack a plane or an explosive device to take a plane down. This child, coupled with an extremely reasonable mother posed zero suspicion.

    I guess the thing we did not see prior to the filming starting was the little girl was dressed in a full black burka with her little face covered screaming “Allah Akbar” as mom raced through the metal detector at full gallop, trying to board the airplane. I am surprised the mom & 2 little girls weren’t hit with a taser …..

    Like you Jarhead, I would not be polite whatsoever. The instant my little girl started to feel scared, this papa bear would have created a shield & kept these idiots away from her.

    Here is a funny story for you –

    Yesterday I had to go into a Federal office (nothing serious) to drop off some papers. As I stood in line, I noticed a sign saying that any weapons are illegal to bring into the facility & it listed the possibilities. I had in my possession & on my key ring a small little folding knife that was a gift from 10 years ago plus, a Cold Steel folding knife I carry daily.

    My car was a good 10 minute walk away & I was not about to lose my place in line to go back to my car to leave the stuff. I noticed it was an off white “rent-a-dumb-ass” at the metal detector so I thought I’d play dumb (not a huge stretch for me) about the weapons “on my person”.

    It was my turn & I acted sort of like I was confused & pulled out my wallet, palmed my knife under the wallet (both were black), placed my phone on top of them & dropped my keys in the plastic bucket & asked if they wanted my file folder in there as well – politely, mind you.

    I kept their attention on me with conversation & acting confused & innocent. I walked through the metal detector & they handed me the plastic box with my possessions without giving it a glance. Yea, I broke the law but saved me a 20 minute round trip walk & nobody got injured.

    I guess I proved my own theory that believing is seeing. I acted confused & totally innocent & that’s what they saw.

    • rush2112 March 1, 2013, 12:32 pm

      thats a cool story. i love to try stuff just to see if its possible. your theory is 100% correct: the brain controls what is seen. i have been in the backs of police cruisers, but never arrested. act like a sheep and walk, act like an American and you go in.

      • Jason March 1, 2013, 8:24 pm

        “act like a sheep and walk, act like an American and you go in.”

        Well said!

  • Templar March 1, 2013, 9:32 am

    I’m with JAS….. I simply don’t give money to anyone who feels the need to search me to get it.

  • irishdutchuncle March 1, 2013, 10:29 am

    it sure isn’t the same country it was.

  • sirlancelot March 1, 2013, 10:37 am

    the “thousand yard stare” works for me.

    look miserable. that’s what these low payed imbeciles want. their miserable and they want company.

    they gave me grief for having too much shampoo and toothpaste. i just chucked it into the barrel conveniently located next to the machine ( for just these kind of atrocities i imagine ) and turned back without saying a word and no change of facial expression.

    after being a good drone i was allowed to pass.

    don’t have any experience with kids, but they would get the same heads up before we got into the airport. this is the new amerika comrades.

    47% of this nation’s people want this type of government. we’re out numbered and until that changes sad to say the loss of our rights and freedom will continue.

    • Jarhead Survivor March 1, 2013, 11:41 am

      Too much shampoo and toothpaste??

      Man, that’s crazy. Pretty soon people will be required to travel naked and buy whatever they need when they get to their destination. At least we won’t have to worry about checking bags any more.

      • Jason March 1, 2013, 8:29 pm

        I guess that’ll be a natural add-on for Virgin Airlines – flying coach will be done in the birthday suit.

  • Jason March 1, 2013, 10:48 am

    New thought –

    The next time I go for air travel, I will eat 6-8 cans of beans & a head of cabbage the night before, act suspicious at the metal detector, get pulled aside on purpose & engage in a long conversation/debate while expelling some silent, tear rendering gas. Might as well give them experience of the occupational hazards available.

    • Jarhead Survivor March 1, 2013, 11:39 am

      Ha! That’s awesome. They might arrest you for assault on an officer though.

      • Jason March 1, 2013, 12:00 pm

        Yea, let’s see them try to prove it.

        Scene from my new reality show …..

        Prosecutor – “Your honor, what I have captured in this evidence bag is the flatulent, foul air surrounding the suspect at the time of the assault.”

        Defense – “Objection! How do we know that “air” belongs to Jason? With hundreds of people going through the area & the ventilating system running, it is ludicrous to assume that it came from my client. I move to have said “air” go through a full DNA scan & forensic screening prior to proceeding any further.”

        Judge – “Please meet me in my chambers – without Jason.”

    • Wally March 2, 2013, 11:00 am

      I’ve thought along those lines, but thinking that before I opt for the groping of those highly trained TSA mornons, I’d spend some time reading from a “adult” magazine…

      • Vicky March 2, 2013, 2:29 pm

        Having seen the attractiveness factor of the average TSA worker, it would take more than pornography to make their groping bearable. LSD, maybe? Of course, they might ensure two bad “trips” instead of just one.

        • Jason March 2, 2013, 3:55 pm

          That was funny Vicky!!

  • Pineslayer March 1, 2013, 11:05 am

    I thought today was going to be a good day, take the dogs for a long forced march, coat some new trim, build a new piece of kit, and get some car maintenance done. Then I watched that video. Now I want to rage, but how and where? Writing letters to elected officials does no good, I have no money to put in the envelope. I have been trying to vote my way to freedom, not working. Too many sheep. All of this is eroding my social skills, don’t even know what small talk is anymore. I guess I would be better off if I didn’t care like most people. Is that true? Are most people blissfully ignorant or just beaten down already?

  • GrnMtnBoy March 1, 2013, 11:24 am

    I feel so secure now that I know that the federal govenment’s TSA is protecting us from crying, crippled children in wheelchairs. Gosh, I have nightmares worrying when one will strike.

  • Jarhead Survivor March 1, 2013, 11:38 am

    Here’s one my buddy Joe at preppingtosurvive.com posted today.


    It’s an interesting read.

    • Jason March 1, 2013, 12:30 pm

      I have run into this type of stuff before & if they are unwilling to make or acknowledge the mistake I do the following very simple solution – hand write above your “live” signature the error – “I purchased the boat in Canada, using Canadian currency. The change to US dollars in this document was not generated by me & cannot verify whether or not the exchange rate is correct.”

      They’ll get over it, trust me.

  • Dairy March 1, 2013, 11:52 am

    We no longer fly in country or travel out of country. If I can’t get there by vehicle or foot than I don’t need to go there. It is a shame watching what is happening to this country. I hope the sheep wake up before its to late (if its not already). I guess we will all have to wait an see what happens next, but in the mean time I keep on keeping on

  • Ragnar March 1, 2013, 12:53 pm

    The people who put her through it are her parents. I doubt that anyone held a gun to their heads and said you must go to Disney World and you must fly.
    Just as JAS and Dairy wrote, I no longer fly. If everyone stopped flying, going to resorts etc. and let the companies know why they were not flying and going to Disney World etc. the corporations would make the government stop. They have the money and power to do it. As long as people keep flying and letting their children be molested, TSA will keep doing it. Publicity of TSA abuses means NOTHING, they work for the government not us. But if the big corporations lose profits, they will put pressure on congress and that may achieve something.

    • rush2112 March 1, 2013, 1:35 pm

      dont know where they are from, but it may be a few days drive to get there. the coporate master says you may only take one week’s vacation at a time. Are you going to spend the week driving, and one day at Disney or fly so your little angel can have max time with the princesses? I dont blame the parents for wanting to bring some joy to their little girl. I blame the govnmt agents that are out of control.

  • caoimhin March 1, 2013, 1:12 pm

    I told my wife 12 yrs ago when all this started we had let President Bush start the beginning of the end of America and our freedom. I went to fly to Denver a year later and Because I now have a ICD implanted in my chest I was treated like a criminal. Hands above my head no shoes and frisked. I told the TSA agent that I had gone to see President Bush a month before and the Secret Service did not put me through all this. I showed them my device ID card and pointed to where it was. The Secret Service agent gently felt the area with my shirt still on and passed me into see Dubya. TSA agent told me they were more important than the POTUS. There needs to be signs at the airport property line, NOW LEAVING AMERICA, YOUR FREEDOM AND CIVIL RIGHTS END HERE.

  • Mike Reid March 1, 2013, 1:24 pm

    Why would you voluntarily put yourself and your family in a situation where you could be arbitrarily detained and searched, and then bitch when you’re arbitrarily detained and searched? When you buy a plane ticket, you are voluntarily exposing yourself to the rampant arrogance and stupidity of the TSA in order to access the time savings of flight. The decision to make that trade-off is yours alone. Only when enough people refuse to fly (and make the reasons for that refusal known) will the situation change.

  • Ken March 1, 2013, 2:42 pm

    I forget the name of the company but someone makes a pocket constitution with a steel cover, so when you go through a metal detector and they stop you ,you are actually giving up your rights. I am sure you could bing it to find one, me I am staying home, but with a bunch of livestock I dont have a lot of options.

    • Jarhead Survivor March 1, 2013, 2:51 pm

      Haha! Ken, that’s great. I’ll bet those folks hear the kind of thing all the time. Then again, maybe not.

  • Vicky March 1, 2013, 3:11 pm

    They got an “apology” from TSA???? That and thousands of dollars in penalties should take care of their daughter’s future psychological needs. An apology is worthless, particularly if it comes from the government. Words, just words. I refuse to fly and barring an emergency, will continue to refuse to fly. The government only responds to money and when the airlines lose enough, there will be some changes. However, if Obama still infests the place, the change may be a biometric national ID card needed to avoid the groping, in which case I’m not going anywhere involving scanning.

  • Charles,,,, March 1, 2013, 4:54 pm

    One I do not go to Disney per their world views, to each their own decesion and two, I flew nearly 20,000 miles a year before the tsa bs, then quit, I will not fly, refuse to fly, if I have to leave early so be it, and if stopped while driving and asked where I am coming from I tell them the address is on the drivers license, when they push it I tell them the same and they continue to push it but twice now they let me go, my lawyer said in my state I do not have to tell the police where I came from or where I am going, it’s pro bono for him if I get jailed so we will see how right he is, know your state, city, township, county laws, a pain I know but ignorance is not an acceptable excuse per the law… one man’s trial in life !!!

  • Robert March 1, 2013, 8:27 pm

    Used to go everywhere with a Swiss Army Knife. Flew for years with it starting at age 12 (parents divorced, lived in different states). No issues. Then September 11, 2001 happened and every one of the sheeple had to “feel” safe. If someone wants to take down a plane, they will find a way. Too many people have access, and airports tend to have open areas around them.

    Our “security” is about making people “feel” safer. It isn’t even about security, just the feeling.

    I flew from Las Vegas to China in 2010 to teach. Had to take off my shoes and walk through the metal detector. First time in a long time I didn’t get “randomly” pulled for additional screening (as the token white guy). Later that summer I flew to my home town (San Jose, California) to visit an old friend. Getting there, no problem, but coming home, the folks in San Jose should have at least bought me dinner. All while one of SJPD’s finest stood guard, just in case.

    Won’t fly anymore unless I’m crossing an ocean (and then, only is gig on the other end is amazing). Still, if I have to fly again, I think I’ll get one of those mini video cameras before I go, just to document and share.

  • Ray March 1, 2013, 9:32 pm

    SHEEP!!! Your great grand fathers (and grand mothers) would have shot the SOBs graveyard dead ,right where they stood. The TSA are MOLESTING CHILDREN in PUBLIC and you do NOTHING. Our “government says the have the “right” to disarm you, to rape you and your children at will, to serch your house, your car and your property without warrent(when the USA PATRIOT ACT gave “agents” the right to sighn there own warrents they became meaningless) and to kill you if you do not give instant obedeance. “government” says it may “detain” you without charge, torture you ’cause they feel like it and kill you as and when they will . No trials . And you think not flying is gonna help Huh?? Folks I hate to tell ya’ this but; Right now you have NO RIGHTS that any agent of the US federal government is bound to respect. NOT ONE.

  • sirlancelot March 2, 2013, 1:12 am

    Ragnar said it best, hit em’ were it hurts , in the wallet !

    once people stop flying and places like Disney and other tourist traps start going broke big corporations will change the rules.

    they run this country, the banks and corporations.

    till then, …………………. bend over !!!

  • Granite Prepper March 2, 2013, 7:52 am

    In the end it comes down to normalcy bias. Not enough people in the US believe that marxism, communism, fascism or totalitarianism can happen here. We have become complacent in this belief and also assume that our politicians are always doing what is right…..it’s just that simple. History is replete of this not being true, people just refuse to believe facts that constantly hit them in the face…..and won’t until it is too late.

    • rush2112 March 2, 2013, 9:00 am

      you’re right, the majority are complacent. but the facts arent hitting them in the face because they NEVER watch/read real news. Not even the network news (which i’m sure we all agree has become the propaganda arm of the govmt). they are completely uninformed and seem to like it that way. and thats how we lose our liberty.

      • Granite Prepper March 2, 2013, 9:07 am

        I would agree that they don’t read TRUE news, but that isn’t the only avenue to see the truth. Just being out in the world on a daily basis is enough to show that things are bad……traveling, shopping, buying gas, etc. Problem is most people have been taught to ignore critical thinking and rational analysis and so they can’t put two and two together to get four…..they see things are completely isolated and not in any way interconnected. THAT is how we lose our freedom…..looking at the forest and not being able to see the trees. The dumbed down population that is incapable of personal responsibility is the road to ruination.

  • Jason March 2, 2013, 9:35 am

    One thing to note – this incident is far, far the exception than the rule. Millions of people travel daily & I’d bet this is literally 1 in a million situation.

    What is sometimes misleading is many people take this event, then extrapolate it & assume it’s a normal occurrence, thus making the US a now Nazi state.

    I have a friend who is very high up in rank & is in the field with the fight against terrorist trying to enter our country to do us real harm. His job is in the anti-terrorist task force & works for our government.

    The people he has personally apprehended with the things they have attempted to bring in, along with their sophisticated methods would scare the crap out of you, seriously.

    What is very unfortunate is the US has become a target, which has increased greatly since 9/11 & it is not going to slow down unless we remove our iron fist that continues to try to put democracy in place worldwide.

    Our founding fathers had a fantastic idea with freedom but over time the politicians & the super wealthy have abused it for their own benefit, ego & greed & what we are seeing today is the snow ball effect of that abuse.

    • T.R. March 2, 2013, 11:53 am

      We can only hope foreign special forces operatives are here as well to help train American resistance fighters in the upcoming civil war . I personally would look at a Spetsnaz unit as liberators compared to what our government has planned for us at this point .

    • Ray March 2, 2013, 7:49 pm

      ALL federal agents are the scum of the earth, The TSA is the worst , They have NO “right ” to do anything THEY ARE NOT OFFICERS. They ARE nazi trash ;as is ANYONE who supports them. I realy hate this FED TROLL crap “we need to let the TSA/DEA/BATFE/FBI nazi scum rape our children so we can be safe”– No we need to be rid of the baby rapeing child killers in black ninja nazi uniforms.

      • Anonymous LEO March 2, 2013, 10:04 pm

        They are NOT Federal Agents…. They are a private entity, Similar to a Security Company.

    • Brian March 3, 2013, 12:36 am

      BAH! I have heard this same story numerous times, and not one person has ever given me anything more then the lines you just said.

      Never “well there was this guy” it’s all secret squirrel BS. Give me an example or two please. There must be a few you can whitewash. If they are as numerous as purported there is no way your “friend” will be found out for leaking information.

      • Jason March 3, 2013, 10:00 am

        Be that as it may Brian, this stuff happens all of the time – far more than you could imagine. One example – they caught a 2 man submarine off the coast of San Diego containing non drug & highly lethal items. They have caught people in Chicago & New York where the stuff has already been offloaded.

        Even the MSM does many exposé’s showing our swiss cheese southern border & how drug runners get through with massive amounts of drugs – all of the time, what makes you think that other items cannot get through?

        Think about it – there are hundreds of miles of coastline on each side of the country, a known southern border that is easily penetrable (how do you think tens of thousands of illegals get here?), the Gulf coast access & gigantic waterways – known as the Great Lakes, that border Canada. Do you actually think for one minute that terrorists, with their 4th century mindset & I’ll take the 72 virgins in the afterlife wouldn’t try to take down the “big Satan”?

        Please, spare me the naivety ….

        • Jason March 3, 2013, 10:15 am

          Brian – you’ll probably say this link is all BS, even though it is documented AND made public however, it is fact that there is much that is NOT made public ….


          • Brian March 4, 2013, 12:49 am

            Read your link, none of them were stopped by the TSA. Out of the 30 there were 4 that were caught in the act of actually doing something. A few were “plotting”, most were “allegedly plotting”. I certainly didn’t see anything there scary enough to justify the constant erosion of the constitution that kicked into high gear with the Patriot Act. As far as super scary top secret stuff goes your still not showing me anything.

            I re-read your post and realized I made the assumption you referring to the TSA. I understand that there are terrorist plots against the US, but the TSA is as useless as tits on a boar hog.

          • Jason March 4, 2013, 10:13 am

            “As far as super scary top secret stuff goes your still not showing me anything.” – and why would I, because some anonymous & blind pea brain poster stomps his little feet & demands it?

            Let’s assume for your benefit that they got rid of all of the TSA at every airports, as well as doing away of the metal detectors & X-ray machines & gave us our “right to privacy” back – do you think there would be any hijacking of airplanes or terrorist attacks?

            Not all of “law enforcement” is supposed to catch criminals, >>deterring crime<< is a huge function. The TSA presence has greatly deterred & made crime more difficult to take place. The unfortunate thing is, it affects all of us which, was Bin Laden's real goal – make the elephant fear the ant which, was brilliant I might add. His goal was to break us financially.

            I agree that the Patriot Act is a bit broad brushed but I have no problem whatsoever if they arrest an "American Citizen" plotting to destroy our country. I would applaud the use of ANY method to extract information to foil future crimes – any method.

            Most all countries outside the US & Canada will use whatever method to get information from a terrorist or suspected terrorist. They will laugh if you say "but I have rights". So I say, why not use the same yardstick?

            What you fail to realize is how weak we have become by the extrapolation of all of the rights we had been given with the constitution. People assume that we have "freedom of speech" to say whatever we want, whenever we want to whomever. That was NOT the intent of the First Amendment.

            Every right given in the constitution assumes a level of appropriateness & responsibility, otherwise there would be anarchy – which is where we could be heading because of the thoughtless, entitlement & feet stomping mindset of fools like you.

            You want to stand on your little Internet soapbox & myopically complain about whatever the flavor of the day is – which is your right by the way, but offer nothing more. It reminds me of that subversive, childish idiot Adam Kokesh (Adam vs the Man).

            You simply don't get it or have not thought it through.

            Complaining is easy, all children do it – but tell me, what is your solution?

  • T.R. March 2, 2013, 11:48 am

    What needs to happen is the mother file child molestation charges on the individual in a civil court . Law still applies , what people are conditioned to accept is that what they do on their job is not subject to law , this is not the case ! They are subject to the law , and are accountable for their actions .

  • Yikes! March 2, 2013, 3:20 pm

    Children are allowed on airplanes?

    • Jason March 2, 2013, 6:49 pm

      Yes, you can freely board any airplane so, don’t worry.

  • kevin March 2, 2013, 4:46 pm

    i have not and will not fly again as long as these so called rules are place the tsa and can kiss my right cheek and it aint the one on my face

    • T.R. March 2, 2013, 6:57 pm

      That crap would come to a swift end if Business would flex their muscles . With todays technology , business can get almost all that needs to happen done without a rep boarding a plane . If they would boycott , the revenue loss would be a very rude awakening , then you would see the screaming …….and change . Just sayin

  • Anonymous LEO March 2, 2013, 9:51 pm

    These People Aren’t Even Federal Agents…. I’ve pulled Them Over Before, Had Them Flash Me Their Badge and Tell Me They’re “On The Job”…. 2 Pages Of Criminal History, Arrest Records on Most of Them…..

  • sirlancelot March 2, 2013, 11:29 pm

    there are some kids trying to use it as a “stepping stone” to LE, but most avoid it like the plague for obvious reasons.

    some kids just need a job. the truly demented think their something other than the over dressed security guards they are.

  • smokechecktim March 3, 2013, 11:43 am

    when I think of the TSA I think of one of the police squad movies where the airport security jumps on the little old lady and starts beating her up while, arabs and nazis with an assortment of heavy weapons walk past. When you hire minimum wage people that is what you get.

  • Lenny March 3, 2013, 11:04 pm

    How about taking your whiny kid to Disneyland by car? That way you won’t have to be inconvenienced by people who don’t want to worry about getting blown up by people who have no problem using children as props on planes that have fairly recently been shown to be very effective in killing thousands of unarmed men, women and children?
    The sense of entitlement of some of the spoiled brats we live with here in America blows me away. Walk already.

    • Brian March 4, 2013, 12:55 am

      How recently? 9/11 never would of happened if the people on the plane realized they were going to be crashing. In fact I don’t think there has been a successful hijacking of a plane since. The shoe bomber and the underwear bomber showed how effective the TSA is. It is a multi-billion dollar dog and pony show to help people feel safe.

      • Jason March 6, 2013, 10:28 am

        “The shoe bomber and the underwear bomber showed how effective the TSA is. ”

        There is a learning curve to everything, moron.

        “It is a multi-billion dollar dog and pony show to help people feel safe”. Hmmmmm ….. we are safer.

        What’s the trade off or alternate solution?

        You see Brian, it’s so easy to hide in cyberspace & complain, play hit & run without any accountability while offering nothing else constructive or requiring thought. That is exactly what’s wrong with many people today – complaining or mocking things for that sake only. Pretty pathetic.

        • Jason March 6, 2013, 11:14 am


          Do you really know what “land of the free & home of the brave” really means? It means to lift up & support one another & stand up for what is inherently right & for the greater good. “Complaining” is meant to serve a higher purpose & to raise the bar or standard, not lower it with reckless abandon.

          Grow up & start thinking. Be a productive & a more positive influence, it will garner far more respect.

  • Pineslayer March 3, 2013, 11:13 pm

    Lenny. I hear you, but don’t forget that the reason Americans are subjected to this new safety is that people on the inside where responsible for most of 9-11. We were attacked by those within. I know that sucks to think about, but the facts are damning. If you want to debate that, look at photos of the crash sites at the Pentagon and in PA. Lastly, analyze building 7 and it’s demise. We could debate the effectiveness of these new procedures, but you will lose.

    • Jason March 4, 2013, 4:26 pm


      How do you measure the effectiveness of crimes prevented? The TSA & all of the extra security measures have greatly deterred many crimes aside from the hijacking bomber – that is a fact based upon results. Additionally, drug trafficking through airports has been reduced drastically & transporting high amounts of cash which, over 90% of the time is associated with crime(s), has been greatly reduced because of the metal they put in bills.

      The TSA, like any other entity – private or governmental, makes mistakes & there is a huge learning curve involved with advanced security measures. Brian above calls it a multi-billion dollar puppet show but that is naive thinking & or influenced by the ever popular low intelligence, find fault with everything Internet sensationalists & bloggers. The thing is very few people look at both side of the equation & just assume the worst first & foremost.

      The unfortunate fact is, we live in an unstable world that has small faction that wants to bring America down somehow, anyhow. The only option I see is to keep employing those people to continue cutting the heads off those extremists with extreme prejudice AND keep any press a million miles away from that information access. I would gladly give my tax dollars to support such a cause.

      As far as the Patriot Act, I believe it is right to not allow those terrorists who have become citizens to NOT receive due process as outlined in the constitution. The minute they attacked our land or conspired to do so, their rights should be immediately revoked.

      • Pineslayer March 4, 2013, 7:55 pm

        Jason, I can’t dispute what you are saying. Yes, increased scrutiny can reduce the crimes, yes I want to see all that would do harm to our society get what they deserve. I would include all of those that gambled our future away in the name of investing or false flag or plain lies to get us to go to war so that they could take/make more money. We have much more to fear than foreign entities. We have all heard the quotes from our framers as to security vs. freedom. We will never be fully safe from ourselves or others. As far as drugs and money going through our airports, they just walk it in. I believe until we clean our own house and quit trying to spread our version of freedom we will always have these problems. Some cultures don’t believe in freedom or equality, we will never change them. My personnel beliefs don’t give much quarter to our leaders, I don’t trust them. The more I read about our history in meddling in World Affairs, the less I trust them. We have done great things to improve the world, fact. This subject matter can quickly degrade into mud slinging, also a national past time.

        • Jason March 4, 2013, 8:46 pm

          Excellent point Pineslayer.

          I think all of this ego driven crap where the world should revolve around America is the downfall of this nation. As you said, we try to add our version of democracy & “freedom” to places that were getting along just fine prior while our government leaders do exactly what they do here – tilt the money table towards their pockets.

          The only reason we create wars since WWII is for monitory gains for the chosen few. They try to sell us on the fact that our freedom is being impinged by whomever, we destroy their cities & many times their culture then we rebuild what we destroyed! How freaking absurd!!

          You are right – cleaning our own house is the only answer.

          • Pineslayer March 4, 2013, 11:32 pm

            Jason, cleaning our house is huge, but I do believe we need to stand by our friends too. who they are is another debate or two. Unfortunately we are constrained by playing nice in war. That’s absurd. It is not happy fun time. There should be no rules in war. Don’t declare war unless you are willing to play to win. That means innocents will die, but who is innocent. We/they within a society are guilty for not changing things and allowing our leaders to “lead” us down that path. If we are attacked or “threatened” ( pre-emptive scares me at times in the hands of paid for politicians), we should stomp the enemy. Make sure we do it right, both as to who and how quickly. Your comment about “the world should revolve around America ” attitude is what bothers me the most. I agree, when I go to another country, I want to experience their culture. Not some Westernized version, but the fault lies with them too. We set the bar high, then we screwed it up. Oh yea TSA. The government should step back and let the airlines do it. The cost would be built in, user fee, and those that don’t use the system don’t have to pay for it. I think the airlines would do it right to keep people confident, I hope. Could it get any worse?

          • Jason March 5, 2013, 12:24 am

            Agree with it all especially your war comment. It seems that the only ones who play by the “rules” AND is held accountable to abide by them is the good old US of A.

            If we engage into a war, we should annihilate the enemy & leave ALL of the media out! The war would be won faster & instead of patching the enemy up to eventually fight another day, send them on their way to meet the 72 virgins with 50 cents worth of lead. A good friend of mine was in Fallujah in the heat of battle & he said his guys never left a wounded combatant alive – I wouldn’t either.

            I’ve been to a lot of other countries & nothing irks me more than to see a McDonalds or Burger King.

          • Jason March 5, 2013, 1:30 pm


            That was a great idea about having the airlines & airports privatizing the security systems & adding it to the fare (airports are not public domains, they are privately held).

            You are right, it is unfair to spread the TSA cost to those who do not use that benefit. Covering the cost would not impact ticket prices by much at all with all of those who travel daily.

            Maybe you should run for congress …. :-)

            On second thought, you make too much sense & would never get voted in.

  • Preppers Canyon March 4, 2013, 3:06 pm

    I completely understand the need to keep people safe, but how far does it have to go. I can appreciate the fact that the TSA has become a necessary evil, but really…..Subjecting a handicapped child to this. Sadly though Pineslayer is right that it was 9/11 that led to this situation and it will not be going away anytime soon…although maybe someday we can get back to normalcy, but I highly doubt it.


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