Uncertain Times

US loses top triple-A credit rating over debtredalert

Hackers hit 70 US law enforcement websites

Triple-digit temperatures not over yet for South

China tells US to ‘cure its addiction debt’

Anger at Congress turns to fears of new recession

Dow average plunges 513, worst drop since 2008


Hey Jarhead!  I thought you only did your survival scenarios on Friday? 

Yeah, unfortunately these are headlines from Saturday’s MSNBC main page.  Here it is August and we’re starting to see the effects of no stimulus money propping up the economy.  The politicians in Washington screwed around long enough with the debt ceiling debacle to scare the bejeebers out of the rest of the world resulting in a US credit rating downgrade.  The Chinese jumped in and said we have to “cure out addiction to debt.”  It sucks when other countries tell us how to run our business, it’s worse when they’re giving you good advice. 

One story talks about how the economy is doing fine and the next says the country is going down in economic flames.  The market looks like they’re tracking a yoyo, London is rioting because a cop shot someone, and other parts of Europe are waking up to the fact that their debt is going to crush them.  There’s a drought in Texas and a couple of wars over seas that we can’t afford monetarily, much less the cost in military personnel. 

Inflation is shrinking our pay checks, people are still out of work, and the government is paralyzed with uncertainty. 

Uncertain times indeed.

I’ve said before that I’m apolitical.  I don’t care who’s in office as long as they’re doing a  good job.  Democrat.  Republican.  Teabagger.  Independent.  I really don’t care.   Obama inherited a mess from his predecessors – both Republican and Democrat -and hasn’t done much if anything to make it better.  I had high hopes for him, but now we’re entering unknown waters with the size of the debt and the credit rating downgrade and as much as people try to predict what’s going to happen it’s all up in the air right now. 

In other posts I’ve said that it feels like things are speeding up and now it feels even more so.  Hey, maybe nothing will come of this.  The markets could recover and people might feel comfortable going deeper in debt thus returning our economy to the good old days. 

My guess is that the Fed will step up soon with a QE3 to help re-stabilize the economy.  (Thus kicking the can a little further down the road.)  I’m not sure if the people in government are mature enough to get their act together enough to get our good credit rating back.

These days I’ve stopped trying to guess what’s going to happen.  If this were the old Star Trek I’d be on yellow alert right now.  I sense danger, but nothing is quite dire enough to set off the red alert claxon.  Yet.

So what’s your guess?  Is this a little blip in the economy and things will soon be better?  Or the country, nay, the whole world is going to hell in an economic hand basket?  Or maybe, “What are you talking Jarhead?  It’s business as usual in the world today.”

This is your blog people.  Speak up and be heard.

-Jarhead Survivor

63 comments… add one
  • john August 8, 2011, 7:19 am

    In the FWIW category, Obama the comedian used this phrase

    > Teabagger

    because it is rap slang for someone that sucks testicles. Usually referring to a homosexual, not a ho. Which is why Tea Party probably should be used if you mention it in mixed company.

    • Max August 8, 2011, 1:04 pm

      actually teabagger isn’t referring to a homosexual, it’s just a general sexual reference. Popularity in video games made it a common phrase for a lot of people, and now of course it’s a political joke.

      It’s for sure not your grandmothers earl grey reference.

    • Jarhead Survivor August 9, 2011, 7:58 am

      John – you’re right. Guess I didn’t think that one through when I wrote the post. Didn’t mean to step on anybody’s toes!

      • john August 9, 2011, 8:23 am

        No problem, personally I have never been to a Tea Party rally and probably never will. Been to GOOOH a few times though.

        I voted for Ross Perot 2x when the national debt was “only” 5.9 trillion dollars. So, I guess we could have been the original Tea Party.

        His 1992 book “United We Stand” Page13

        “We’ve allowed ourselves to be lulled into thinking that the bills would never come due.

        We’ve been led to believe we could keep on borrowing our children’s money to finance a lifestyle we haven’t earned and can’t afford. It can’t go on.”

        IMHO, It has been a fine 20 years watching America self-destruct because no one would listen to the Christian with big ears (that disobeyed orders and would not hand out condoms on his Navy ship because sex outside marriage was immoral) and pie charts telling us we could no longer continue the immoral mortgage on our children’s future.

        Just like no one listened to him at the Government Motors stock holders meeting when he said it was immoral to give executives $10 million dollar bonuses, each, while laying off line workers.

        The reason I am a prepper is I know it is going to end and end quite badly because of the immoral borrowing and immoral killing of innocent babies.

        SHTF is coming one way or another because we have rejected God and our Constitution. Just the way it is.

        I am just surprised gold is climbing while silver is declining.

  • Timmy August 8, 2011, 8:42 am

    Jarhead sez: “I’ve said before that I’m apolitical. I don’t care who’s in office as long as they’re doing a good job. Democrat. Republican. Teabagger. Independent. I really don’t care.”

    I care.

  • Presager Buddy August 8, 2011, 9:22 am

    After the theater of the past month by Congress and the administration, I don’t hold out much hope that they’ll do any better in the next year or two. Personally, I think that the bumpy ride we’re feeling right now is like driving over the shoulder of the road before we hit the tree.

    • gat31 August 8, 2011, 11:29 am


    • Rushman August 8, 2011, 12:00 pm

      I Second that!

    • No ME Preppy August 8, 2011, 9:19 pm

      A few choice phrases from popular culture:

      Buckle your seatbelt!


      Ramming speed!


  • Templar August 8, 2011, 9:43 am

    The gub’ment will indeed pour a bit more cash into the black hole that our economy has become. Things will improve for a short while…..silver & gold will drop, presenting one final buying opportunity. Then, the bottom will drop out (probably early-to-mid next year). After that…….life will never be the same (at least in my lifetime). Hold on, it’s gonna be a heckuva ride!

    • No ME Preppy August 8, 2011, 9:20 pm

      And the hammer will drop in 2012.

  • BraneFrees August 8, 2011, 9:49 am

    “Obama inherited a mess from his predecessors – both Republican and Democrat -and hasn’t done much if anything to make it better. I had high hopes for him, ”

    If you EVER had ANY hopes for that media construct – you must have indeed been high.

    • JohnDoe1999 August 8, 2011, 6:14 pm

      “Perpetual Optimism is a Force Multiplier” We all hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Refusal to abandon hope is the refusal to embrace cynicism, not naivety.

      • Anonymous August 8, 2011, 7:00 pm

        Facts are facts.

        I could spend a dollar and hope to win the lottery, but a study of the facts would indicate that to be a highly improbable likelihood – no matter how high my hopes.

        Much the same as taking the time to take a look at who the current White House resident was before he arrived in that position. Calls for neither naivety or cynicism.

        Winning the lottery would probably have been the better bet.

        • JohnDoe1999 August 8, 2011, 8:17 pm

          Hope and Ration are neither mutually exclusive nor interdependent; I was disapproving of a rude comment on a forum for intelligent debate, not arguing semantics.

          • BraneFrees August 9, 2011, 9:39 am

            Your disapproval is duly noted. Thank you for your opinion.

            Changes nothing, but noted nonetheless.

  • Odd Questioner August 8, 2011, 9:53 am

    Couple bits:

    1) the graphic “red alert” sign… was that from the original Battlestar Galactica, or the 70’s Star Trek movie? (for the life of me I can’t remember where, but I remember an animated version of that image).

    2) It gets even funnier – seems that S&P screwed up their calculations, and decided that instead of admitting their mistake, they shifted gears into saying it was a political thing: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903366504576491421339802788.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

  • Novice August 8, 2011, 9:56 am

    The Fed has one more bullet in the gun…QE3. The problem with that bullet is that it’s aimed right at the American people. Once fired, it will prove to the world that we intend to inflate our way out of this mess. At first, speculators will focus on the bad economy and commodity prices (oil, grains, precious metals) will decrease. Until they realize we are already experiencing shortages of these commodities and the weaker dollar makes them skyrocket in price. Is this the hyper-inflation that will induce the collapse we’ve been prepping for? Stay tuned.

  • gat31 August 8, 2011, 10:12 am

    You know Jarhead up until about May of ’08 l was like you and never really cared either. 99% of the time whoever was in office didn’t really effect me directly since l was never high enough in the food chain to be effected. I was a single mom raising 4 kids with out help and worked 50 – 80 hours a week to just make ends meet. Never had money or the credit to buy a house or a new car. (still don’t)
    Then one day on the way to work l found talk radio. Over the next 6 months the blinders starting coming off and l realized what was going on around me. I remember like it was yesterday talking to a friend and making a 3 page list of things l needed to get like now because it wasn’t looking good for America.When l called him and started telling him about my list l was making he didn’t think l was crazy. (my family was looking for the white jacket guys’ number though lol)
    Move forward 3 years later and l’ve been downsized twice, moved in with my daughter, and been driving on my donut tire for a month because l can’t get get enough money put back to buy a tire. On the other hand, l don’t owe anybody money, l have seeds put back to garden with this year and maybe more, and if the bottom falls out l have a pretty good leg up to survive it. This is why l come to this site because l learn so much and the people are great. Though to be honest in the real world, most of the people wouldn’t talk to me because of my current job. Most people assume l’m too stupid to do a better job not realizing that l took an available job instead on living on unemployment for 2 and a half years. (which actually would have been more money since l was maxed out)
    As l am writing this, the dow has opened and is 200+ points down as we all expected. Near as l can tell, unless you are in the market, trying to buy a house or car, or in need of credit cards, the market doesn’t effect the average person making under 50,000 a year. (Unless your 401k was tied to the market like mine was)
    However the QE does effect the devaluing of the dollar which in turn effects prices for food and commodities. I don’t think adding money to the problem is going to fix anything. I think if we really want to help the economy we need to vote everyone out and put in single moms. I don’t know anyone better for balancing a budget and making ends meet with nothing. We need to lift the thousands of restrictions that have caused so many farmers to give up farming, and quit giving government contracts to all the “buddies” . Go back to bidding for them and actually consider bids of strangers not just bids from political friends.
    I think scaring the elderly and the troops to get congress to make this (totally unconstitutional) super congress is deplorable. I also think every time there is something in the congress splashed all over TV, you need to start looking for what they are REALLY doing that’s not being reported. Like passing the DREAM ACT while we were all watching Weiner’s weener.
    IMHO we can sum it up like this “welcome to the handbasket people guess where we’re going”

    PS Please don’t refer to tea party as tea baggers that’s just wrong on so many levels.

    • gat31 August 8, 2011, 10:21 am

      man always awaiting moderation!

      • Jarhead Survivor August 8, 2011, 11:11 am

        @gat31 – I didn’t see any comments waiting moderation with your name.

        • gat31 August 8, 2011, 11:14 am

          Your comment is awaiting moderation.

          that’s in bold below my name does everyone else see the small book a wrote?

          • gat31 August 8, 2011, 12:10 pm

            check the spam filter

        • Ranger Man August 8, 2011, 9:11 pm

          You must’ve been looking in the wrong place.

          • gat31 August 9, 2011, 12:02 am

            ty rangerman!

  • Wally August 8, 2011, 10:43 am

    Folks…we’re screwed.

    We’ve been this way for a long while, but thanks in large part to the attention span of the sheeple who put (and CONTINUE to put) these freaking morons in office, it’s been “overlooked” by our so-called major media outlets sensing that the sheeple would rather hear about royal weddings, reality tv, celebrity deaths/sexapades, birth certificates… As the good book roughly says: We reap what we sow. Why in the hell is anyone surprised at the freaking mess we’re in now????

    Our country needs to get their collective heads out of their collective asses and put some people in office who have the smarts AND the freaking guts to fix a lot of the economic wrongs that have been put in place over the past decades or it’s game over…period.

    The big question is whether or not the majority of our citizen sheeple have the courage to do the right thing as opposed to staying the same course that they been trained to remain on. While the last election showed that some out there still have some working brain waves…my strong bet is NO FREAKING WAY. The VAST majority of our populas are too concerned with their present way of life….screw the future as long as we’ve got a Keystone in the fridge and bacon in the pan

    For those who already haven’t, we’re urging them to bail what they can from the market and buy silver and/or real estate. Some of our buds have already entirely pulled their stakes and moved to less worrisome countries. Due in large part to our house apes, we’re sticking put and plan to ride this wave all the way into the beach…and the beach is getting closer everyday.

  • GoneWithTheWind August 8, 2011, 10:46 am

    Many of our underlying problems have been with us for years. Most could be traced back to the mid 60’s and the great society. But in 2006-7 the last budget before a Democrat congress took over the deficit was under $200 billion and had been going down for years. Obama’s first deficit was about $1.7 trillion. To say that Obama inheirited all these problems and hasn’t done much to correct them would be a gross understatement. He inheirited some problems to be sure but then made them ten times worse. We are in or soon will be in a full blown depression. Without massive printing of money (QE1 & 2) to prop up what little is left of the economy it would be in the basement. QE3 is coming but while it may prop it up temporarily it only makes the inevitable crash so much worse. All that money must be repayed either in the form of higher taxes or massive inflation. Either way the taxpayers will pay for Obama’s spending spree.

    • Timmy August 8, 2011, 4:09 pm

      I’ll see your Great Society, and raise you a New Deal!

      Well stated.

      • No ME Preppy August 8, 2011, 9:25 pm

        Reference my alphabet soup comment from a few days ago.

    • Granite Prepper August 9, 2011, 4:41 pm

      It’s time to buckle your seatbelts and put your tray-tables in the upright and locked positions…….the plane is going down and your seat-cushion can be used as a floatation device. I’m not sure if putting your head between your legs helps other than to give you a unique perspective of the impending debacle but hey, why not???? Nothing else is helping at this point!!!

  • Cliffystones August 8, 2011, 11:33 am


    I do hope that your “high hopes” for Obama were do to the naiveté of youth. As a young man I believed the fear mongers about President Reagan. Only after the fall of the Soviet Union did I wake up and realize those who opposed him were either hopelessly misguided or had an anti-American agenda.

    I had Obama pegged from the first time I saw him speak. I “hoped” I was wrong, but even in 2007 I knew there were bad times ahead if folks fell for his vacuous rhetoric.

    I also knew we would all hear that “sucking sound” that Ross Perot warned about if NAFTA were passed. And I saw a rough road ahead when the American People elected a commander-in-chief simply because his father had also held the title, not that Gore would have been better. While I’m glad we beat the living s#!t out of Afghanistan and Iraq, I saw the mess coming when we tried to “rebuild” Afghanistan and Iraq to the extent that we as a nation have involved ourselves with money and lives lost.

    Were I granted one wish, it would be to be able to inject my common sense and ability to size up people that it’s taken me over 50 years to refine. Like you, I don’t care what label people place on themselves, their actions are what matters.

  • anonymous August 8, 2011, 2:21 pm

    I have been unemployed since last October and my boyfriend came home today and is hoping he still has a job next week. Unfortunately, the only job postings that are out there are part-time for hours that I cannot pull with young kids.

    I am already dealing in survival mode, I hate to see what worse is….

    • Timmy August 8, 2011, 3:58 pm

      Well sweetie, I think you’re about to find out. You can rely on no one but God. He will only help you if you help yourself first. So, get to it and good luck. You are not alone.

      • Steve August 10, 2011, 2:00 am

        Actually, Timmy, God does not help those who help themselves. God helps those who put their unyielding faith and trust in Him. If you can provide a quote from the Bible that backs up your statement, I will gladly admit to being mistaken.

        • Timmy August 10, 2011, 11:47 am

          And are you not helping yourself by putting your unyielding faith and trust in Him? Are you saying that once you put your faith in God that you should just stay in bed every morning and just wait for Him to feed, protect and otherwise provide for your every need?

          My point to the commenter was to not expect any person to come running to her rescue with a job or to take her out of survival mode. But if it feeds the need to prove your piety of scriptural knowledge, have at it.

  • Brad in South FL August 8, 2011, 2:28 pm

    Brothers and Sisters,

    I don’t feel good about what is happening. I have been working to get rid of my debt but have not gotten it taken care of yet. I am very scared for my family’s sake. I know that all I can do is get prepared and hope for the best but prepare for the worst. I know that everyone realizes that USA is only 3 days away from anarchy and if the gov. money stops coming or inflation spikes and people can’t afford to eat we are in deep and I am not sure we can ever get out of it. Keep prepping and be safe all!

  • Gobbedyjook August 8, 2011, 3:15 pm

    Don’t forget the alien observers, increasing incidence of sasquatch activity, and Obama’s secret Muslim agenda.

    The country has been run by people who don’t understand math unless it’s a regression analysis of their voting constituents. The economy has been run by people who can do math, but don’t care if the world burns down, because theiy have real survival plans… like a fortified homes in the Swiss Alps, massive protected financial assets, and a realistic understanding of how the global economy works.

    We are dependent, and that is a simple fact of our lives. We can work. We can vote. There’s not much else that we can do.

    Next time vote for somebody who can read, and doesn’t believe in magic. It won’t protect us from the alien mind-control rays, but it will very likely preserve our credit rating.

    Congress makes me almost not care about shotguns and zombie attacks at all, and that’s a damned shame.

  • Anonymous August 8, 2011, 3:18 pm

    Obama inherited a AAA credit rating from his predecessors.
    Obama inherited a 5.7% unemployment from predecessor.
    Obama and the democrats had control of the government for 2 solid years before 2010.

    As it stands now, I’d vote for the Alfac Duck over Obama in an election.

    • Jason August 8, 2011, 4:25 pm

      I’m not defending Obama – he is a complete dolt and he has NO experience in leadership whatsoever.

      The US economy is an extraordinarily large & very slow moving machine & he did inherit a lot of the problems. The banking mess like Countrywide as well as the investment banking debacles were well in gear prior to his Kenyan foot crossing the WHITE House threshold. BTW, did you know that the vast majority of educated black Americans actually hate him? That’s why he hangs with the likes of Al Sharpton – all bluster & no brain.

      HOWEVER …. how Obama has handled it all has made the problem far, far worse. We’ve moved into quicksand & been given shovels for help out. The problem is curable but he’s gotta be gotten rid of along with the rest of the unAmerican greedy bastards, no question. Jarhead I’m surprised you bought into his act.

      Here is a guy who steps into ANY business or governmental meeting and is the LEAST experienced person in the room by far – less than the Pages employed at the White House. And that is our leader …. that would be like putting my 18 year old son in charge of the battle of Fallujah because he went paintballing a couple of times.

      Imagine what Reagan (like him or not) would have done of he stepped into this mess – he would have publicly beheaded quite a few of those banking fools who F-ed with the American people. I think this is more proof than the doctored birth certificate that he is not an American.

      I’m in agreement – let’s get the Aflac Duck on the 2012 ballot either that or Snoopy.

      • riverrider August 8, 2011, 10:41 pm

        i vote snoopy. veteran(air corp) and general problem solver.

        • Jason August 8, 2011, 11:30 pm

          Hahahahaha – that was excellent river!

  • mountainspirit August 8, 2011, 5:01 pm

    -513 friday looks good after closing bell today at -635. But Obama did say that he wants to extend unemployment benefits and the tax credit to help build the economy on C Span a little after 4p.m. today.
    As papa used to tell everyone. sometimes you got to hit rock bottom before you can work your way back up, and the government ain’t no different. And right at this moment, we have a ways to go before we feel rock bottom.
    I’ll life today, and Lord willin, I’ll see tomorrow with a better outlook on life.

    • mountainspirit August 8, 2011, 5:09 pm

      spelling error: that’s supposed to be live , not life. sorry

  • little roach August 8, 2011, 5:37 pm

    well this is just the way i see it. every one is saying ,it bad, and going down hill, fast…..(no one in the U.S. ownes nothing.) my point…it all belongs to the fed…dont think so, don’t pay you’r tax’s…fed’s will take you’r land, car’s, house. ect..freaze bank account an so on….when the stuf hit’s the fan..at the fed, they raise tax’s…on every thing ,if you cant pay you loose…just me but i’m pulling my money,an CD’s out.befor the bottom fall’s out..so if i can’t pay my tax’s .i will still have money in hand. mabe not on me but some where my family can get to it….an no it wont be under my pillow lol….most will think i a nut , but what if.

  • Calamity Jane August 8, 2011, 10:59 pm

    I have been watching the riots in London with interest. I keep thinking, what would I be doing if I was living in that city? I’m so happy I’m in Iowa, corn may be boring, but at least it doesn’t riot.
    I know I need to be saving more for retirement, but at least with nothing “invested” in the stock market, I’ll lose nothing if it crashes. *shrug*

    Tea people, Donkeys, Grand ole rich party, I worry about some of you. Those groups don’t care about you, they won’t show up with food if things go really south, and they only seem to know how to lie. They lie equally well through radio, tv, internet and printed word; I spend my time worrying a lot more about the politics more local to me. Do you have a community garden started? A seed swapping group? Are the building codes for gray water systems and composting toilets approved in your county?

    Things are certainly not going to get better any time soon, whether you put your faith in a party or a god or the guy-on-tv. That’s just the view from my porch, of course.

    • Timmy August 9, 2011, 2:39 pm

      Interesting…because ya know… I worry about me too. Not because of my convictions, but because of the mind set of too many similar to yours.

      What – pray tell – will you do when the balloon goes up, and everyone has lost the value of their dollars. The new “rich” are folks like you who have prepared for such an event. What will you do when 300 million of your fellow citizens who have NOT prepared come knocking at your door claiming that it is not fair that you have so much and they have so little. Sure, you will dispense charity, but it will not be enough to satisfy the need. What then? Why do you own a gun(s), if not to forcefully dissuade those who have not what you do? How is this any different form those who have and have not currently?

      I prefer local politics as well. I have more of an influence in it. What I have less control of is national politics for the same reasons as I assume you do also. BUT – national politics has a definite control over how we conduct our affairs. That aint right. Us “teabaggers” are drawing a line in the sand.


  • noisynick August 9, 2011, 6:18 am

    Whats coming and happening is what we prep for. the outcome will be the measure of how well we’ve done. It seems our political parties have all blended together they stand for the same thing. GREED……….
    And that greed has been the downfall of our Country.

    • Jarhead Survivor August 9, 2011, 8:07 am

      noisynick – I have to agree with your comment. Greed and the desire for power are the base of our troubles.

  • JeSter August 9, 2011, 7:36 am

    Apolitical? I think a little intellectual honesty might be appropriate if you’re going to claim such a title. You can’t use a derogitory name for a group (i.e. Teabaggers) and not have an agenda or an opinion.

    • Jarhead Survivor August 9, 2011, 8:08 am

      Yeah, like I said above, that commnet wasn’t well thought out. I didn’t mean any disparaging remarks towards a political party.

  • john August 9, 2011, 7:43 am

    > l can’t get get enough money put back to buy a tire.

    You will be pleased to know Obama and his union thugs placed a 35% tariff on tier 1 tires (the cheapest ones poor people buy) from China to prop up the SEIU union pensions and to benefit SABIC, a bunch of Arab “princes”.


    Then we spent StimUwaste money to export unproven recycling tire technology to China.

    The end result, a cheap Walmart Nanco tire for $50 went up $18 to $68.00 or an extra $72 for a set of four. Good thing the taxes on the poor were not raised.

  • Granite Prepper August 9, 2011, 4:45 pm

    You’re the second marine I know who was bamboozeled by Obama…..freakin’ jarheads.

    • Jason August 10, 2011, 10:03 am


      If they had any ability to think & discern, they wouldn’t be Jarheads!

      Funny Jason.

      • Granite Prepper August 10, 2011, 1:16 pm

        Funny Jason,

        Too true…….too true!!

        • Jarhead Survivor August 10, 2011, 1:41 pm

          You guys are just slayin’ me over here.

          • Granite Prepper August 10, 2011, 2:54 pm

            You know, slings and arrow of oppression and all…….so the trials and tribulations of a marine!!

          • Jason August 10, 2011, 3:36 pm

            Of course we all know what noise is made when the S H’sTF – MMMMMARINE

          • Jarhead Survivor August 10, 2011, 3:56 pm

            Great. You guys are the Laurel and Hardy of SHTFblog. The question is which one is which?

          • Granite Prepper August 10, 2011, 5:04 pm

            Well, my comments were mostly meant to be tongue and cheek humor…….no disrespect intended. Forgive me for the age-ole’ ranglin’ of interservice rivalry!

          • Jason August 10, 2011, 6:23 pm

            Well, based upon Granite’s response, I guess that would make me – Hardly. Appropriate eh?

            Hardy, har, har

  • Jarhead Survivor August 10, 2011, 8:08 pm

    Oh, I didn’t take it personal ya’ll. That’s just my sense of humor kicking in. And since I hate using things like LOL and :-) it came off a little dry. Believe me, I’ve developed a thick skin over the years from all the jealousy of me being a Marine. Now excuse me while I sing my favorite song…

    “From the hall of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli…”


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