Warrantless Searches

Folks, kiss all privacy good bye. Warrantless searches are now the normal. Apparently we’re supposed to give up every last freedom we thought we had the right to.  Protesting of course has been illegal for some time now, one must get permits and permit to being corralled into “Freedom Zones.” Filming the militarized police in their random acts of brutality will likely earn you some jail time. And every level of that police force feels like they have an obligation to invade our privacy and search every last citizen they can.

Of course, the cynical minded might think that more searches means more seizures. More seizures means more revenue in confiscated and seized property. And budgets are tight, especially when Uncle Chief is sure he needs a giant  Bearcat SWAT vehicle for the squad this year.  But don’t mind me I’m just feeling cynical minded today. Where was I? Oh yea, warrantless searches.

Traveling is where they’ll get you, I’ve noticed that one on the rise. Random check points in transit hubs. Bus line hubs, subway hubs. They just set up a barricade, some signs with legalese and listing of fines, flash their badges and guns and bob’s your uncle it’s a random check point! Papers please! They’ll look through anything you’re carrying, without anything like probable cause.

Heaven forbid you go anywhere near the militarized zone that is our Southern border. Random checkpoints within an hour of the border, doing nothing but stopping every car on the highway and without warrant or probable cause, questioning and searching every person on that highway. Actually trying to cross the border could earn you a cavity search. TSAluggageNote

And if they find anything in any of these warrantless searches? Well, that’s just a convenient way to get you into court where they can start milking you for fees and fines. Which, by the way are rapidly becoming the leading cause of repeating jail time. Court fines and fees get sent to collection agencies who tack on more fees, the interest rates can be in the double digits. And all you have to do is miss a payment and you get a no-expenses paid trip to jail, where they’ll add on room and board to your total.

So, if you want to stay out of debtors jail, and if you want to avoid warrantless search and seizures.. well, I don’t really know. I’d say stay home, but they can get you there too.  I kinda just feel like we’re getting screwed on this one. How do the police officers justify this shit to themselves? You could move up here to the upper midwest, we have to go to an airport or the state capital to see the police state in action, the rest of the place is so spread out, there’s nothing much else that can be considered a ‘hub’ of anything.  I’m open to other suggestions, but I’m guessing there aren’t many out there. Get beyond their reach, or consign yourself to living in their tightening fist. Anybody had a run in lately? Or tips for dealing with the police state? Shout out in the comments!

– Calamity Jane

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  • R.C. May 22, 2014, 8:33 am

    I have avoided flying since 2001. You know which date I’m referring to.

    For obvious reasons.

    When the xray body scanners were forced upon every one, I said to myself “Now there is no way in hell I’d ever go back”.

    Keep in mind this was before we invested more money into vacation property south of the Mason Dixon line.

    Now in order to go enjoy it my wife says “we’re not driving there”. LOL

    I guess she likes the invasive pat downs?

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  • SEBAGO DAD May 22, 2014, 9:07 am

    I am normally very pro-law enforcement and still am on the local level. My little town’s police force is very community friendly and made up of people I largely know and come from this rural area.

    However, on the state and federal level that is no longer the case. I don’t know these people and my interactions with them suggests that they feel no connection to me as a citizen. I don’t trust them. Couple that with the militarization of these agencies and it’s difficult to argue with the idea that they are ‘out to get us’.

    Seemingly, they will walk right past major offenses conducted by entrenched, institutionalized criminal activity to instead seek out violations amongst the largely law abiding citizenry. It would appear as though we are being herded as opposed to protected.

    Anyone can get caught up in the switches. It happens all the time. Buy a gun from a private individual, get stopped for a seatbelt violation and then a serial number check of your sidearm comes back (maybe incorrectly) as stolen. Your troubled nephew calls you from a monitored phone asking to borrow money and then tells you all his woes. A disgruntled, psychotic ex-partner decides she (or he) is going to even the score. Your accountant does something underhanded, gets caught and everyone on their client list gets audited. Your new neighbors decide that they don’t like the smell of your garden’s fertilizer or the sound of gunfire from your sandpit so they file a complaint against you. In the process they overstate your reaction when they trespassed and you told them to get off your property. Any of these things can happen and have to people I know. To a greater or lesser degree they are all now “in the system” and on the radar.

    The only defense I know of at this point is to stay on your toes, live smart, avoid people as much as possible and have a good lawyer on speed dial. This ain’t your Daddy’s America any more.

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  • ArmyVet May 22, 2014, 10:18 am

    Having had a couple of regrettable run-ins with Johnny Law, and after watching and hearing so much about civilian LEOs of the last decade; I have determined that, from my perspective, show me a cop, and I’ll show you a dirty cop.

    I am confident that no cop has ever started corrupt, but the vast majority seem to end up corrupt. After you figure in the militarization of civilian law enforcement agencies, and a twisted legal system; We the people, need to be very afraid.

    Civil liberties and constitutional rights are being stripped away at a dizzying pace. Our combined governmental bodies are becoming more oppressive and, yet, We the people allow it all to happen.

    I don’t fear another country invading the US of A. I fear the civil war that is brewing and, I feel, is certainly coming. Politically, our country is too divided. Some are too far right, others too far left; both factions, however, are the minority. The centrist independents are the majority and we have no voice. The uprising is coming, be ready …BE PREPARED!!

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  • Pineslayer May 22, 2014, 10:36 am

    Keep your head down and don’t make eye contact, but that will probably make you suspicious looking too. Don’t forget armed rent-a-cops.

    The bottom line is that we have no rights anymore, just the illusion of them until you try to exercise them. We can’t vote out the problem because the un-elected scum behind the curtain have all the power, for now. As long as Dem’s and Repub’s are in control they will play ball with the elites to get their “backing”. We can try and not play their game, but that is just a band-aid for the hemorrhaging of our kids future. My only real hope is that reality will kick in for the majority of humans and we will all quit playing. Grow more food, consume less energy, pay less taxes. Is it possible to have a Revolution that doesn’t end in War? Can we take back our freedom from those who have stolen it by peaceful means? History would say probably not, but this is America and we can if we get everyone to wake up, put on their big person undies, and decide that we want to be free again, there is always a way. I will continue to force those around me to take a critical look at our situation, if I can just one person to open their eyes occasionally, it is progress.

    Until then, dig holes. For plants that is :)

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    • Calamity Jane May 22, 2014, 5:03 pm

      Pineslayer, I don’t know. I wish it was possible. I certainly feel like I’m fighting a war, trying to send the right messages with my money and my time. No money or time to any tv network, or newspaper/magazines. Limited money sent to giant ag companies or food processing corporations. Then an election year comes along and I feel like nobody “heard” a word I said with my money and time allocations.
      If I leave my cell phone at home, maybe they can’t track me in my garden. :) That’s where I think I’ll stay, all weekend.

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      • Pineslayer May 22, 2014, 5:52 pm

        CJ, I do think that how we spend our time and money makes a difference, how do we get enough people on board? Who will they listen to?

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  • Larry May 22, 2014, 11:23 am

    It’s worse than you know. TSA VIPR teams are now showing up at non-transportation events performing random searches. In Portland, ME, they were at a local St. Patrick’s Day parade, as reported by the local NBC affiliate. In an ad for the St. John Festival, appearing in the St. John Tradewinds newspaper (St. John, USVI, that is) there’s a note at the bottom of the ad that says, “NOTE: Random TSA checks will be conducted!!! BE PREPARED!!!”

    What the heck is TSA doing at a steel drum concert? I’ll be prepared, all right, prepared to tell the TSA agents to go pound sand!

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  • Pierce May 22, 2014, 12:36 pm

    I gotta admit, this is not a post I expected from SHTFblog, but you guys hit the nail on the head. Down in Florida we had a bill up for vote that would protect the right to carry in a mandatory evacuation, and guess who shut it down? The sheriffs, that’s who. I work in the law enforcement area, and I’ll tell you right now that it scares me the way most of them talk. Many of them openly state that we should do away with trials, after all, if you’re arrested then you have to be guilty, right? Be smart everyone, and keep a recording device close to protect yourself in court.

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    • Calamity Jane May 22, 2014, 4:50 pm

      HAha, I do occasionally look up from my garden Pierce. And Jarhead and RoadWarrior might not leave Maine very often, but I travel a bit for my day job, and a lot of my relatives are in TX, (no, I don’t see them much anymore.)

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  • ThatGuyinCA May 22, 2014, 12:41 pm

    I am generally pro-LEO. However, some of the procedural crap they do is uncalled for but I’ve never really encountered a situation where I felt my rights were being violated. In my area they used to set up check points for licenses (to catch unlicensed drivers). They would impound cars and fine people without licenses. I’m sure it’s used as a blanket check: warrants, drunk driving, unlicensed, etc. For awhile they were doing it every week at various locations (paid for by state grant). I actually didn’t have a problem with it. Get the drink drivers and unlicensed (therefore uninsured drivers off the road, thank you very much). I don’t have anything in plain sight that would give them reason to search the car (which in my state is illegal without consent/warrant), don’t have warrants, have insurance, don’t drink and drive and have a current license. I don’t really see that as an intrusion and it takes no more than a few minutes, including the wait time to get through. I’ve never really had to deal with much else than that. I have never had an officer ask to search my car during a traffic stop so I’ve never been tested that way.
    I have a big problem with cops trying to stop someone filming them. That’s huge. However, I also have a problem with people escalating a situation that doesn’t need to be escalated, like that dude in Cotati who refused to go out and talk to the police who were investigating a (false) domestic violence claim. They didn’t even demand entry just requested that everyone step outside and talk. Go out, talk to them, let them see all is OK and they go on their merry way. Engage with them. Engaging with them is always better than just saying F*#! You! If you know your rights so much you are going to assert them so enthusiastically know the situations where they just can’t go away (such as said domestic violence call).
    As for airports, you cannot complain there. When you buy the ticket you are agreeing to searches of yourself and baggage before boarding (read the fine print). No one is making you fly so they have a right to insist, if you don’t like it, don’t fly. Does it suck? Yeah, but that is the way it is. Why is it like that? Because of all the people who can’t wait to sue someone when something goes wrong.
    Like I said, I’ve never been in a situation where I felt a cop was exceeding his authority. I’ve dealt with more than a few dick cops in my day, but just because they are rude and are assholes doesn’t mean they have gone too far. It just means they are rude and an asshole.

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    • TK May 27, 2014, 11:57 am

      Stop making sense, dammit. Hyperbole is vital to waking the Sheeple.

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  • kevin May 22, 2014, 8:11 pm

    I gave up flying after 9/11 and never plan to again there is one stretch of route 104 that ny state troopers seem to like to camp out on SUPPOSSEDLY checking to make sure people have BUCKLED UP what they are REALLY looking for is anybodys guess BUT IT AINT GOOD if this keeps going the way it is as much as it SCARES the crap outa me I am afraid we are headed into civil war the really scary part is if it happens it AINT gonna be over in months this could last for DECADES or even generations and in the end it will rear the country into little pieces and it could end becoming balkanized

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  • Pineslayer May 22, 2014, 8:46 pm

    I wish that I never used airlines, but occasionally I do board one. It sucks. I do it less and less, but part of me still wants to travel. I have been assembling a checked bag that holds my GHB. It is an old hard sided Samsonite, remember those commercials showing the gorilla throwing someones luggage around? Anyway, I have a question. You can travel with a handgun as long as it is in a locked hard sided case inside your luggage, that won’t fit into my big case. You can put gun parts into your luggage, so can you disassemble the gun and put it in your bag without problems? Can’t seem to get a straight answer from the system.

    How about a Ruger Takedown 10/22?

    Should I just admit defeat and stick to my camper van?

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    • R.C. May 22, 2014, 10:37 pm

      Every time I travelled (mind you pre-2001) I have had to carry all my rifles and handguns in locked cases, ammo in retail packaging (never had to separate them from the firearms) and the airlines carried them on the plane for me. These days I’m told you need to call your airlines and ask them what their regs are for TSA compliance.

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    • Bill May 23, 2014, 7:31 pm

      I regularly fly (unfortunately) and don’t have any love for the TSA. I do, however, always fly with an unloaded firearm in my checked baggage. I use a “NanoVault” locking metal pistol case, which is also locked inside my suitcase. My suitcase is soft-sided, but the metal pistol case satisfies the TSA requirements.

      You ALWAYS have to DECLARE the firearm at the ticketing counter. My experience, even with different airlines, has been pretty good. In fact, I’ve even been ushered to the head of the “special service” line when I told the airline agent that I would be declaring an unloaded firearm. I recommend you use those words too, just to allay concern in this overly-sensitive world: “I’m going to be declaring an unloaded firearm.” No need to shout it across the airport either.

      They ask you if it’s unloaded and in a locked container, then make you sign an affidavit to that effect and tape it to the container. Sometimes they ask to see the container, but they’ve never asked me to open it and show them the firearm.

      Ammo can usually be in the same locked container as the firearm, but it has to be in it’s factory box. Not sure how this would go over with reloads. Just make sure you check your airline’s website for their particular rules before you travel. Some airlines might be slightly different regarding how much ammo you can bring and how it must be packed.

      As for a 10/22-TD, I’d recommend putting the whole thing in it’s own small locked, hard-sided case inside your luggage. If you’re going to fly with a larger (non-take down) rifle, or even an AR-15, I’d use a separate locking gun case, like a Pelican case.

      Don’t give them excuses to mess with you. If you try to fly with a firearm in your checked baggage and you “forgot” to declare it – they will mess with you. It is NOT worth the risk.

      All that being said, if you have to fly, I encourage you to declare and check your firearm and a box of ammo instead of leaving it at home. Another word of warning though: make sure you aren’t breaking any (stupid) laws at your destination (or even layover points) by arriving there with a firearm against local laws. (Don’t go to CA with a pistol or rifle magazine that holds over 10 rounds, or an AR-15 without a “bullet button” in place of the standard magazine release.)

      Lastly, if your airline ever tries to route you through New York, choose a different airline/route. If New York is your final destination, why?

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  • sirlancelot May 22, 2014, 10:02 pm

    Most people sleep walk through this life.

    I don’t see too much changing anytime soon

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  • thoi trang nu giam gia May 23, 2014, 1:18 am

    Sure. There are many education packages for trend stylists.

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  • irishdutchuncle May 23, 2014, 4:02 am

    cower in a basement or attic, ’til they find me, then meekly go to the “showers” once I arrive at “camp”.

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  • Green Eyed Jinn May 23, 2014, 1:10 pm

    I’ve had 6 “encounters” with local & state police in the last 2 years. Of those, 2 were “good,” 4 were “bad.” 2/3 against are not good odds. And in the “bad,” asserting my rights — “you know officer, our state has no requirement to declare if there are any weapons in the vehicle unless you intend to detain me (he knew I had a CCW permit from the data base)” — had a visibly negative reaction. Fortunately (?) in that case I did not, and told him so when I realized he was getting that “tactical look” in his eyes.
    I know a couple of current LEOs…and I am often disturbed by some of their attitudes toward “citizens” & “perps” (a distinctly increasing edge of disdain when these terms are used).
    I had an encounter with local police at my own home where I only avoided a serious confrontation because another friend, who is a Fire Dept Captain, intervened and attested that I was a “good guy.” The LEO in this case gave my word no credence (even knowing that I am a retired veteran), but was quick to listen to another “public servant” — a lesson that taught me that if you aren’t in the city’s uniform, you are a second class citizen.
    Finally, I know a (now pretty senior) FBI agent, who flatly refuses to even engage me when I ask about federal policies and how they are balanced against the rights of citizens. Whether he does not want to go on the record or does not want me to know details, I can only guess.

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  • Roger November 18, 2014, 10:45 pm

    If ‘the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed upon’ then why do I have to pay for a license to carry a firearm ‘concealed’ while in this state (Colo.) I can legally open-carry a firearm. Of course, they (LEO’s) want you to carry that firearm unloaded, even though their sidearms are loaded! Why does not wanting to unnecessarily alarm people or let criminals know you’re capable of defending yourself considered a crime? Guns don’t shoot people, knives don’t stab or slash people, cars don’t run people over, these actions are always caused by other people, sometimes by their negligence! Why is a 3 1/4 inch blade considered more dangerous than a 3 inch blade? Face it, the government doesn’t have our best interests at heart (unless your rich), it is primarily concerned with controlling and protecting its interests; COG (continuance of government). As I understand it, the thirteen original colonies formed a loose confederation for trade and protection, with fifty states plus territories and protectorates, that has changed to a federal dictatorship forcing unwanted and unneeded laws and regulations on us all; perhaps because the purpose of power is to maintain and increase that power! Maybe the best solution for this country would be for a return to that loose federation, only by region this time. Northeast coastal, Great Lakes area, Southeast, Midwest, Southwest, Northwest, Southwest coastal, Northwest coastal, and finally non-continental (Hawaii and Alaska), with territories and protectorates protected by their nearest region, these nine regions could self-govern with much more efficiency than a highly-bloated federal government that produces more highly over-priced red tape than anything else! If you as a citizen don’t like how how things are done locally, then you can move to a different region! Another thing that desperately needs to be addressed is citizenship in this country; it should not be a gift, but a reward for service with rights both local, regional and national guaranteed to those willing to work for it! If you’re willing to sit around, doing nothing productive (no, having kids that you don’t support isn’t being productive), basically being a drain on the welfare system, then you should have no right of self-determination, for you are a leech! (Sounds like politicians, doesn’t it?) If you want a say in how your live should be lived, then EARN IT! I’m not just talking about paying taxes, be willing to give of your time and effort to help the community at large. How? Military service, maybe a new form of Peace Corp, helping your neighbors without having to worry about being sued, ultimately, realizing that you are but one of millions (billions) of people, not insignificant but not special either! Your race, sex, creed, handicapped, etc.,etc. doesn’t make you special! The world is a finite system that we are screwing up at a rapid rate, and believe me when I state that the world doesn’t need us, but we are totally dependent on it! We, as a country, need to stop putting our federal nose in other countries business, we have no right to tell them how to live; we don’t need military bases in other countries, they (more than a hundred of them) are helping to bankrupt us. The USSR was ultimately broken by this (as well as other things), and the USA will be next! Hell, we don’t even control our national borders, even though we supposedly have the most advanced military in the world! Sorry for running my mouth for so long, old age perhaps. Good Luck!

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